Go Back   6th Gen Accord DIY and Performance Forums > The Garage > Engine & Transmission Mods

Engine & Transmission Mods Swaps, Turbo, Nitrous, bolt-ons, it all goes here

Register to remove these ads


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old 11-16-2017, 01:03 PM
Enne's Avatar
Enne Enne is offline
Senior Member
Points: 3,251, Level: 16 Points: 3,251, Level: 16 Points: 3,251, Level: 16
Activity: 6% Activity: 6% Activity: 6%
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 146
Rep Power: 7
Enne is an unknown quantity at this point
Member Photo Albums
Re: My f23a4 is old and tired.

Is there something actually wrong with the engine that's in it or are you just bored with it? They're very similar, but what's the benefit of swapping a different engine in instead of just rebuilding the one you have? You're not gaining HP or anything else just putting a regular, used F23A1 in it.

Same question, first answer is to rebuild: http://www.6thgenaccord.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=27979

I know if Selene's gets bad, my dad is rebuilding it. He builds 270 and 600 motorcycle engines into racing engines as a side business, so I'm sure he could do a few things with an inline 4 Honda motor... lol
__________________
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-25-2017, 06:36 AM
GrubbyHonda GrubbyHonda is offline
Junior Member
Points: 870, Level: 7 Points: 870, Level: 7 Points: 870, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Seattle
Posts: 25
Rep Power: 0
GrubbyHonda is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: My f23a4 is old and tired.

Originally Posted by Enne View Post
Is there something actually wrong with the engine that's in it or are you just bored with it? They're very similar, but what's the benefit of swapping a different engine in instead of just rebuilding the one you have? You're not gaining HP or anything else just putting a regular, used F23A1 in it.

Same question, first answer is to rebuild: http://www.6thgenaccord.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=27979

I know if Selene's gets bad, my dad is rebuilding it. He builds 270 and 600 motorcycle engines into racing engines as a side business, so I'm sure he could do a few things with an inline 4 Honda motor... lol
has 200K miles on it and not sure how long these engines last. i take care of it. never beat on it. mgiht be time to freshen the car up with a new engine.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-25-2017, 07:49 AM
BlkCurrantKord's Avatar
BlkCurrantKord BlkCurrantKord is offline
Senior Member


Points: 48,713, Level: 68 Points: 48,713, Level: 68 Points: 48,713, Level: 68
Activity: 47% Activity: 47% Activity: 47%
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ohio
Age: 35
Posts: 9,280
Rep Power: 121
BlkCurrantKord has their shit togetherBlkCurrantKord has their shit togetherBlkCurrantKord has their shit togetherBlkCurrantKord has their shit together
Send a message via AIM to BlkCurrantKord
Re: My f23a4 is old and tired.

As long as it's running fine and it's had or is about to have it's second timing belt service done, just leave it be. No sense in replacing it just for the sake of replacing things.
__________________
Originally Posted by LoveLee
I would love a mushroom stamp after I pass the CPA
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-25-2017, 09:53 AM
Nam1911a1's Avatar
Nam1911a1 Nam1911a1 is offline
Senior Member
Points: 3,922, Level: 18 Points: 3,922, Level: 18 Points: 3,922, Level: 18
Activity: 15% Activity: 15% Activity: 15%
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Southern Indiana
Age: 30
Posts: 400
Rep Power: 9
Nam1911a1 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: My f23a4 is old and tired.

My motor has 222,xxx miles and it is in no way tired. I can roast the tires in first gear and they grab shifting into second. Mine sees 6k rpm almost daily. These are durable long lasting engines if well kept. Keep those oil changes up and belts in serviceable condition and go. Clean air filters. You can find air filters for less than 2-3 dollars and replace them every other month. Why not it's so cheap. I buy in bulk off rock auto.
__________________
6th Gen Noob - Major tinkerer
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-25-2017, 02:59 PM
Rusty Accord Rusty Accord is offline
Senior Member
Points: 2,310, Level: 13 Points: 2,310, Level: 13 Points: 2,310, Level: 13
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 434
Rep Power: 7
Rusty Accord is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: My f23a4 is old and tired.

Originally Posted by Nam1911a1 View Post
My motor has 222,xxx miles and it is in no way tired. I can roast the tires in first gear and they grab shifting into second. Mine sees 6k rpm almost daily. These are durable long lasting engines if well kept. Keep those oil changes up and belts in serviceable condition and go. Clean air filters. You can find air filters for less than 2-3 dollars and replace them every other month. Why not it's so cheap. I buy in bulk off rock auto.
Agreed. I've got 233K on mine, and it's still running great with the 5 speed. My wife's 00 Accord with AT has 236+K on it, and she drives it everywhere. In fact it's our go to car for road trips (cruise set at 80 with the AC on). I'm wanting to get them BOTH to go to 300K.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-25-2017, 03:22 PM
Nam1911a1's Avatar
Nam1911a1 Nam1911a1 is offline
Senior Member
Points: 3,922, Level: 18 Points: 3,922, Level: 18 Points: 3,922, Level: 18
Activity: 15% Activity: 15% Activity: 15%
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Southern Indiana
Age: 30
Posts: 400
Rep Power: 9
Nam1911a1 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: My f23a4 is old and tired.

My f23 felt really old and tired when I first got it. But that was only because the spark plug wires were worn out and shorting into the head, the spark plugs looked like they where dipped in crude oil then ash, the air filter was worse than after vaccumming my house, and the valves needed adjusting. But some time and a little money and the engine was roaring to life.

It runs even better now with no catalytic converter and that terrible factory air box snorkel intake. I gutted the entire bottom side of the factory air box and throttle response is soooo much better and sounds better. The muffler has been ported to lower internal pressure and improve air flow. Has a nice rumble now.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-27-2017, 11:09 AM
Rusty Accord Rusty Accord is offline
Senior Member
Points: 2,310, Level: 13 Points: 2,310, Level: 13 Points: 2,310, Level: 13
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 434
Rep Power: 7
Rusty Accord is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: My f23a4 is old and tired.

Originally Posted by Nam1911a1 View Post
My f23 felt really old and tired when I first got it. But that was only because the spark plug wires were worn out and shorting into the head, the spark plugs looked like they where dipped in crude oil then ash, the air filter was worse than after vaccumming my house, and the valves needed adjusting. But some time and a little money and the engine was roaring to life.

It runs even better now with no catalytic converter and that terrible factory air box snorkel intake. I gutted the entire bottom side of the factory air box and throttle response is soooo much better and sounds better. The muffler has been ported to lower internal pressure and improve air flow. Has a nice rumble now.
I didn't get that carried away, but I did replace the timing belts, and put in a new set of NGK plugs. On the exhaust side, I just replaced everything from the manifold back. The Magnaflow cat and cat back system helped breathing since the old Brosal cat was plugged. That alone helped the most, and turned off the CEL.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-13-2018, 03:11 PM
GrubbyHonda GrubbyHonda is offline
Junior Member
Points: 870, Level: 7 Points: 870, Level: 7 Points: 870, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Seattle
Posts: 25
Rep Power: 0
GrubbyHonda is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: My f23a4 is old and tired.

can the f23a4 auto trans bolt up directly to an f20b or h22?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-21-2018, 08:32 PM
GrubbyHonda GrubbyHonda is offline
Junior Member
Points: 870, Level: 7 Points: 870, Level: 7 Points: 870, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Seattle
Posts: 25
Rep Power: 0
GrubbyHonda is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: My f23a4 is old and tired.

? anyone?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-22-2018, 07:58 PM
Rusty Accord Rusty Accord is offline
Senior Member
Points: 2,310, Level: 13 Points: 2,310, Level: 13 Points: 2,310, Level: 13
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 434
Rep Power: 7
Rusty Accord is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: My f23a4 is old and tired.

Originally Posted by GrubbyHonda View Post
? anyone?
I think so, but you're moving into tricky territory in that either the F20b or H22 need to use OBDI to run, while the F23a4 AT needs to use OBDII in order to operate correctly. In the early thru mid 90's Honda AT's used a separate transmission ECU. Then in 95 I think, Honda incorporated the trans into the engine ECU. They've been like that ever since, which makes finding a replacement ECU a chore sometimes due to the fact that it has to match BOTH the engine and the trans of the car needing the ECU.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


» Featured Ride
CHECK OUT THIS WEEK'S FEATURED RIDE!



Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3