6SPD CL-S - J32A2 Information

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For fellow 6spd swappers, this was my research when I did my swap.
For some reason, V6Performance isn't working for me???? Is it working for anyone else?

Good thing I kept my research...lol

Maybe this will be helpful to fellow 6GA members.

COMPLETE PART LIST FOR 6SPD SWAP
http://www.v6performance.net/forums/6th-generation-honda-accord-1998-2002/90373-complete-list-6speed-swap-j30a1.html
Note: These prices are old, from back in the days...
But to give you a rough idea...

Acura Parts
('03 Acura CL-S 6sp Manual)
?????-???-??? Transmission Assy. $ 1,500.00 - $2000
22100-PGE-026 Flywheel $ 468.55
22105-PGE-305 Clutch Set $ 294.17
44306-S0K-C11 Driveshaft Assy L $ 208.82
44305-S0K-C11 Driveshaft Assy R $ 208.82
24470-PYZ-000 Lever, Gearshift $ 53.49
24600-PYZ-000 Stay, Change Wire $ 52.45
31200-PGE-A11RM Motor Assy., Starter $ 293.92
46600-S3M-A51 Pedal Assy., Brake $ 67.60
46910-S3M-A01 Pedal, Clutch $ 61.72
46930-S3M-A01 Cylinder, Slave $ 58.32
44500-SS8-A01 Intermediate Shaft $ 177.90
50805-S3M-A03 Rubber,FR Transmission Mounting $ 28.27
50806-S3M-A03 Rubber,RR Transmission Mounting $ 39.98
90034-PRC-000 Bolt, 12Point 8M (Qty of 6) $ 2.73
46960-S3M-A01 Pipe A, Clutch $5.75
46970-S3M-A01 Pipe B, Clutch $8.53
46961-S3M-A02 Hose, Clutch $27.32
46392-SL0-003 Clip D $3.62
46972-S6F-E01 Clamp, Tube(D12) $18.48
94070-08080 Nut-Washer (8MM) $0.28
35710-SE3-A01 Switch Assy., Clu... $41.27
92201-10070-0J Bolt, Hex(10X70) $1.22
94050-10080 Nut, Flange (10MM) $0.85
46981-SR3-930 Bush A, Clutch As... $3.67 x 2 = $7.34
46907-SR3-010 Spring, Clutch As... $6.23
46535-SM4-000 Collar, Pedal $5.98
50827-S3M-A00 Bracket, RR. Engi... $107.29
90166-S3M-A00 Bolt, Flange (12X25) $2.33
95701-10030-08 Bolt, Flange (10X30) $0.97 x 4 = $3.88
50810-S3M-A01 Rubber Assy., RR.... $152.83
90167-SL0-010 Bolt, Flange (10X68) $3.85 x 4 = $15.40
95701-10085-08 Bolt, Flange (10X85) $1.95 x 2 = $3.90
54117-S6M-003 Rubber, Floating $2.52 x 4 = $10.08
93404-08035-08 Bolt-Washer (8X35) $0.90 x 4 = $3.60
54310-S3M-A01 Wire, Change $145.98
90555-SF1-000 Washer A, Shift W... $2.27
90556-SF1-000 Washer B, Shift W... $1.68
90557-SF1-000 Washer A, Select ... $2.27
90558-SF1-000 Washer B, Select ... $1.68
94201-20350 Pin, Cotter (2.0X35) $0.60 x 4 = $2.40
54116-SV4-000 Pin, Linkage $2.22
54118-SC2-000 Washer Assy., Wire $3.67
28250-PYZ-003 Solenoid Assy., S... $225.05
90034-PRC-000 Bolt, 12 POINT 8MM $2.77 x 6 = $16.62


Honda Parts
('93 Honda Civic Si)
46920-SR3-A01 M/Cyl Assy., Clutch $ 88.80

('99 Honda Accord 4cyl Manual)
46966-S84-A00 Stay, Tank $ 20.59
46971-S84-A02 Hose, Clutch Fluid $ 9.35
46972-S84-A01 Tank, Reservoir $ 9.67
46973-S84-A01 Cap, Reservoir $ 7.31
46974-S84-A01 Diaphragm $ 4.42
46990-S84-A01 Brkt, Clutch Pedal $ 18.76
54100-S84-A01 Lever Assy., Change $ 53.08
83414-S84-A01ZA Boot Assy $ 26.78

Richie V6's Bypass Harness $ 500.00

(Shift Knob of Your Choice)

54102-SEC-A01 TSX Shift Knob - 6MT $ 106.97

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RICHIE V6's FAQs

http://www.v6performance.net/forums...3383-6-speed-obsession-swap-info-harness.html

The Module
Overview
The swap module allows for the interfacing of the 6 speed manual transmission with the stock Accord 4 speed automatic transmission computer.

Without the module the following feature will not work.
-VTEC
-Full rev limit
-Speedo
-Reverse lock out
-Reverse light
-Passing inspection due to CEL

Parts list
The parts used for this swap are quite simple everything is available from Honda except the harness. Try to get as many parts off the donor car as possible. Here are some diagrams of the parts needed.

You can purchase parts and view detailed diagrams at Honda parts sites such as www.hondaautomotiveparts.com and www.acuraautomotiveparts.org. I find these are great sites for diagrams which allow you to see what is involved in a swap.

Mounts
The only mounts that are required to be change are the transmission mounts. The rear engine mounts can also be changed with a CL-S mount which is stronger but is not required. For the transmission mounts use the ones from the 03 CL-S 6 speed.

Axles and Intermediate shaft
The stock axles and intermediate shaft work just fine with the 6 speed transmissions. The CL-S axles are suppose to be stronger and thicker.

Pedals
You can use either the 03 CL-S or I4 Accord pedals.

Clutch hydraulics
You can use the clutch lines from the CL-S as well as the master cylinder. I have tried using a master cylinder from a mid 90's Civic as well and it works just fine and is a good bit cheaper.

Clutch Disc, Pressure Plate and Flywheel
You can use the clutch disc, pressure plate and flywheel from any 6 speed transmission. The Accord, TL and CL all use the same clutch but the CL uses a different flywheel which doesn't matter with this harness.

Shifter and Linkages
The I4 Accord shifter and linkages are not a direct fit and will have to be modified. The only linkages and shifter that are a direct fit are the from the 03 CL-S.

6 Speed Transmissions

6 Speed transmissions from the following cars can be used. But the Accord and TL transmissions will have to be modified slightly by welding on a stud for the shift linkage. (more on this later)
03-07 Accord V6 MT (NO LSD)
03 CL-S MT (LSD)
04-08 TL MT (LSD)

Special Preparations
Before installing the harness the mechanical aspects and stock wiring should be checked for functionality. This can done be driving the car in limp mode, by removing the transmission range switch from the automatic transmission and connecting it to the engine harness. Then by manipulating the the switch to the N or P position using a screw driver. Test to see if the car will drive. This will eliminate difficult troubleshooting due to the possibility of problems with both the car and harness.


Common Questions

Q: What car will this harness work on.
A: 98-02 Accord V6

Q: Will the harness work with a TL or CL.
A: Not yet we are working on the Type-S ECU currently. The harness might work on the 99 TL and will soon be tested.

Q: Can I use a I4 or Prelude transmission.
A: No only the listed transmission will work.

Q: Can I use this harness with the J32A2 Type-S ecu.
A: No, we are currently working on a harness that works with a Type-S motor. We hope this can be applied to the Accord, TL and CL.

Q: How can I get a harness.
A: The design has been modified for a easy install and will be mass produced soon. The first ones should be ready in around April.

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HELPFUL DIAGRAMS INCLUDING 2011-2012 PRICING
99.9% of the list is needed.

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ADDITIONAL USEFUL INFORMATION:

If installing 05-06 TL Transmission, an extra pin has to be added on for it to work or else it won't shift properly with the CL-S engine.
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Subframe has to be lowered in order to have clearance between the engine and the hood.

NOTE: ALWAYS ENCOUNTER PROBLEMS ALONG THE WAY...ATLEAST $1000-1500 OVER.
I learned that the hard way...Lols
 
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Re: 6SPD CL-S Information

I SWEAR after this GENEROUS spoon feeding, I better not see ANOTHER thread asking what is needed for a 6spd swap!!!!!

Judy, awesome info, thank you for sharing.

This definately needs to be stickied.

Repped.
 
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Re: 6SPD CL-S Information

"WE are the music makers...and WE are the dreamers of dreams."
 

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Why did you copy/paste the info from the stickied threads on V6P? lol

I like that you posted the parts diagrams though.
 

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I SWEAR after this GENEROUS spoon feeding, I better not see ANOTHER thread asking what is needed for a 6spd swap!!!!!

Judy, awesome info, thank you for sharing.

This definately needs to be stickied.

Repped.
sphanx. :)

"WE are the music makers...and WE are the dreamers of dreams."
huh? lol

Why did you copy/paste the info from the stickied threads on V6P?

I like that you posted the parts diagrams though.
v6p seems to be not working?? i was gonna link it
fixed - v6p isn't working for me, so thought it was down.
 
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A lot of users are complaining about malware though. I personally haven't had issues but some of them have posted print screens and everything
 
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