I'm going j35

Status
Not open for further replies.

Halabeaster54

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 15, 2011
Posts
1,471
Reaction score
8
Location
Phoenix, AZ
After discussing this with several people and debating it in my head I want to do a j35 not a j32a2. I am installing it with my friends who have done a lot of swaps in their life, just never a j, but I have free labor. V6P is a great resource just everything seems cluttered up. So what exactly would I need from a j32 and j35 or should I just drop a whole j35 in. I've read that people use j32 tops on j35 bottoms. Someone like mikeymike, tekrice or moneypit cares to shine some light on this it would be greatly appreciated. I am just desiring a parts list that will put me over 300 HP and around the same area for torque n/a.Don't ask me if i dedicated to the swap because I am ready for the frustration and time consumption of the swap. Thanks a lot guys, James.

Sent from my EVO 3D using Tapatalk
 

RedRyder

Save the manuals
Joined
Sep 5, 2008
Posts
19,516
Reaction score
118
Location
Fawking, OH
Another J35 thread. You have a lot of research to do man. Read Paul's (NVA-AV6) threads on V6P, as well as MoneyPit's and MikeyMike's. Some of Tek_Rice's should help as well. Your labor may be free, but a J swap is very different than any H, F, or B series swaps. Make sure you know what you're getting into first, and be prepared for anything. You will hit snags.

Just gonna tell you right now, no one will give you a full list, this will require some learning on your own behalf. And I hope you have some deep pockets.
 
Last edited:

Halabeaster54

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 15, 2011
Posts
1,471
Reaction score
8
Location
Phoenix, AZ
Another J35 thread. You have a lot of research to do man. Read Paul's (NVA-AV6) threads on V6P, as well as MoneyPit's and MikeyMike's. Some of Tek_Rice's should help as well.

Just gonna tell you right now, no one will give you a full list, this will require some learning on your own behalf. And I hope you have some deep pockets.

I know no ones going to give me the full list. I'm going to pm Paul in a little bit. My goal is to have this done buy spring/summer. I got time and hook ups for parts. I might be getting a Tl 6spd for around $500

Edit: what I'm really looking for is how far do i need to drop my k frame and do I need a 32 and a 35.

Sent from my EVO 3D using Tapatalk
 

Halabeaster54

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 15, 2011
Posts
1,471
Reaction score
8
Location
Phoenix, AZ
I found this

Here are the swap options along with brief advantage(s)/disadvantage(s):

BLOCK/HEADS (incl. manifold (upper/lower), tb) ------------------J30A1/J30A1 advantage: no modification needed. disadvantage: no torque until turbo/sc kicks in.

J30A1/J32A2 advantage: mid-range and top-end power disadvantage: J30A1 pistons have to be modified to fit large J32A2 (intake) valves. Not much torque until turbo/sc kicks in.

J32A2/J32A2 advantage: no modification needed, mid-range, top-end power. disadvantage: torque is still ok but better than J30A1

J35A4/J30A1 (Odyssey '02-04/ '00-02 Accord V6) advantage: no modifications needed, adequate torque, adequate mid-range disadvantage:needed better cams, large intake valves for overal better powerband, top-end power

Option 1: If budget is limited the solution is to swap J32A2 (CL-S/TL-S) cams into stock J30A1(Accord V6) cyl. heads (see sticky CL-S swap and Cam machining).

Option 2: Get J32A2 (CL-S/TL-S) complete cyl. heads + IM (intake manifold) But requires different pistons :p (see J35/J32 below) to clear J32A2 valves.

J35A3/J35A3 (Acura MDX '01-02), J35A4/J35A4 (Honda Odyssey '02-04) advantage: no modifications needed, great torque, nice mid-range disadvantage: little less air flow than J32A2 but very close.

This option looks like a good choice if getting the complete engine or even separate short block and cyl. heads/manifold due to a price. And MDX the cyl. heads are the same part # as CL-S, however intake valves and cams are different than CL-S but overall much better than pathetic AV6.

J35A1/J32A2 (Odyssey '01/CL-S '01-03) advantage: great entire powerband and especially torque. disadvantage: Need CL-S or RL pistons.

Note: Same options apply as listed below.

J35A3/J32A2 ('01-02 MDX/CL-S '01-03) or J35A4/J32A2 (Odyssey '02-04/CL-S '01-03) advantage: great entire powerband and especially torque. disadvantage: Need CL-S or RL pistons.

There are also couple options:

Option 1 With '01-02 complete MDX block or '02-04 Odyssey complete block (crank/rods/pistons) it is required to purchase 2005 Acura RL pistons (new set $50 each) This is a best option still since these pistons have clearance for large 36mm J32A2 (intake) valves thus no modification needed. Despite the fact they have higher 11.0:1 CR still even supercharger can be used here with low boost up to 7psi intercooled (assuming safe AFR). In addition, if 11:1 CR is too high for you, you can use '03 CL-S pistons with 10.5:1 CR.

Option 2 '01-03 J32A2 block (CL-S) Required to purchase the following:

-= hondaautomotiveparts.com =-'02-'04 Odyssey (crankshaft) Product No. 368270 or Honda part #13310-PGK-A00

'02-'04 Odyssey (connecting rod) Product No. 368269 or Honda part #13210-PGK-A00

Main bearings + rod bearings

-= acuraautomotiveparts.org =-'03 CL-S (pistons) - 10.5:1 CR or '05 RL (pistons) - 11.0:1 CR

pistons rings (per chosen model)

Note: Odyssey pistons do not have clearance to fit large 36mm J32A2 (intake) valves. Solution - custom job to increase valve pockets.

BTW, The only advantage to get J32A2 block is due to better cylinder sleeves to withstand heat designed for higher redline vehicle, otherwise depending on the price Odyssey or MDX block are the best bet.

Keep in mind, J35A5 '03-04 MDX will not fit on 6th gen. AV6/CL/TL/CL-S/TL-S due to different design, and looks like only for 7th gen. AV6.

Edit: The correct valve dimensions now stand as follows: incl. J30A4/J32A4

J30A1 '98-02 AV6: 34mm/29mm (intake/exhaust) J30A4 '03+ AV6: 35mm/30mm

J32A1 '01-03' TL/CL: 34mm/30mm J32A2 '01-03 TL-S/CL-S: 36mm/30mm J32A4 '04+ TL: 35mm/30mm

J35A1 '99-01 Odyssey: 34mm/29mm J35A4 '02-04 Odyssey: 35mm/30mm

What would be the most cost effective way of going about this. I'm not building a rocket ship, just looking for 300+hp & torque.

Sent from my EVO 3D using Tapatalk
 

DarkSideAccord

nadeshiko fobz ftw..
Joined
Sep 19, 2005
Posts
21,956
Reaction score
128
Location
CA
if u have major hook ups and all the time in the world, why not go 450++ whp?
 

Halabeaster54

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 15, 2011
Posts
1,471
Reaction score
8
Location
Phoenix, AZ
I'm not looking to blow all of it haha so it looks like I'm doing option one.

Sent from my EVO 3D using Tapatalk
 

AllGOnoSHOW

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 24, 2008
Posts
8,204
Reaction score
25
Location
asdfasdfasdf
this is well known?

the hell :thinking:

It's only obvious from how he talks and his car is getting modded.. lol So it may not be well known, however I am payed on a daily basis to be observant of many different people and I pick up on cues.

I didn't mean it as a bad thing. I'd like to see this get done.
 

Halabeaster54

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 15, 2011
Posts
1,471
Reaction score
8
Location
Phoenix, AZ
this is well known?

the hell :thinking:

It's only obvious from how he talks and his car is getting modded.. lol So it may not be well known, however I am payed on a daily basis to be observant of many different people and I pick up on cues.

I didn't mean it as a bad thing. I'd like to see this get done.

Haha how do i talk?

Sent from my EVO 3D using Tapatalk
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top