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Old 11-01-2017, 09:51 AM
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Re: Million mile club

Originally Posted by Enne View Post
Or just buy a set of wheel hubs, as I've mentioned numerous times before, and just put them on. They're not that expensive and it takes like 10 minutes. Your dad obviously doesn't want to spend like $700 at the dealership for this repair, so tell him you guys can watch a video, rent a slide hammer and do it yourselves for $100 or so.

And if you don't, you're going to be paying a whole lot more when that bearing gives out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe_WtKIKlYA
The front bearings are pressed into the knuckle. You can't just by a hub.
For the rears, yeah, just go buy a hub.

The video you linked is for a Mercury Mountaineer, btw.
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Old 11-01-2017, 11:21 AM
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Re: Million mile club

I replaced the wheel hub assemblies on my Cavalier, which is FWD. You can just buy the entire assembly for it. I assumed the Accord would be the same, but I guess it is not. And yeah, I know the video is of a different car, but it says "the process will be very similar for replacing any wheel bearing hub assembly with an axle running through it" in the description.

I was not aware it would be different for the Accord. I haven't had wheel bearing issues with mine so I've never looked into the replacement process.

I've had the wheel bearing and axle in my Camaro replaced, which has pressed-in bearings, and it's really not that hard. I was there with my father when he did it, it didn't take very long to get the old one out/new one in with the proper tools. I suppose if you've never done it before, you could screw it up, but how else are you going to learn? I mean, if you want to maintain your own vehicles instead of taking it to a shop for every little thing, you should learn.

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if its on the front. would be 10 times easier to get a knuckle with hub and bearing attached from the junkyard.

easy way and cheaper tbh is a junkyard knuckle and be done with it
So, my point still stands that replacing an entire component is faster and easier, just not the component I was thinking of.
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Old 11-01-2017, 12:07 PM
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Re: Million mile club

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So, my point still stands that replacing an entire component is faster and easier, just not the component I was thinking of.
Sure, you could get the whole knuckle and hub from a junkyard, but then you've got a used bearing and used ball joint. And that ball joint is difficult to separate without damaging it. You might save a few minutes in the short run, but having new parts is worth it as far as I'm concerned.

Paid under $150 for both front bearings and ball joints when I did mine a few months ago, and only took about an hour a side with hand tools. Having my girlfriend hit the brakes so I could pop off the axle nuts was a big help, too.

Either way, you're right about learning if you don't want to waste all your money or cant afford to have it done.

I wasn't trying to be a ****; but didn't want our new member to be misled, either.
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Old 11-01-2017, 01:23 PM
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Re: Million mile club

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Sure, you could get the whole knuckle and hub from a junkyard, but then you've got a used bearing and used ball joint. And that ball joint is difficult to separate without damaging it. You might save a few minutes in the short run, but having new parts is worth it as far as I'm concerned.

Paid under $150 for both front bearings and ball joints when I did mine a few months ago, and only took about an hour a side with hand tools. Having my girlfriend hit the brakes so I could pop off the axle nuts was a big help, too.

Either way, you're right about learning if you don't want to waste all your money or cant afford to have it done.

I wasn't trying to be a ****; but didn't want our new member to be misled, either.
Well, I aint being misled m8. I used to take lucky to the good old stealership for the past 3 years. What are the tools do i need to have for the wheel bearings?

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Old 11-01-2017, 04:15 PM
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Re: Million mile club

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Well, I aint being misled m8. I used to take lucky to the good old stealership for the past 3 years. What are the tools do i need to have for the wheel bearings?

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Other than normal hand tools like wrenches and a socket set, you'll need a big socket and breaker bar for the hub nuts; if memory doesn't fail me I believe it's 36mm.

I use a big socket I don't care about and a 5lb hammer to beat the old bearing out (while the knuckle is tightly held in a good vise). It'll probably fall apart before it falls out, but who cares, you're replacing it anyways.

To get the new bearing in, I used a $15 "bearing and race driver" set I picked up at Princess Auto. It is basically a metal bar about 8" long with a threaded hole on one end. It comes with 5 or 6 different diameter adapters for different sized bearings and races. Pick the biggest one you can that is still smaller than the overall diameter of the bearing. Remember to freeze the new bearing first because if you don't you'll have to whack the hell out of it to get it to slide into the hub and risk damaging it.

Work your way around in circles while gently tapping and make sure it goes in straight, especially for the first half inch or so.

The tool I used looks something like this; but this one has more adapters and is shiny, so I guess that's why it's more expensive lol.

https://www.tooltown.ca/Performance-...river-Set.html

EDIT: Forgot to mention snap-ring pliers. I managed to get the snap rings for the ball joint and bearing out with needlenose pliers, but a good set of snap ring pliers would have made it much less of a pain in the ***. So that's next on my tools shopping list lol. You will get a new snap ring with the new ball joint, so don't worry about breaking that one. But you'll probably need to re-use the wheel bearing's snap ring; the bearings I got didn't come with new snap rings.
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Re: Million mile club

I'm glad I have a Milwaukee 1/2" electric impact. Those hub nuts came off like 10mm nuts. It's easy when ur impact has 1100ftlbs of nut busting tork!!
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Re: Million mile club

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I'm glad I have a Milwaukee 1/2" electric impact. Those hub nuts came off like 10mm nuts. It's easy when ur impact has 1100ftlbs of nut busting tork!!
But then how did you torque it to spec when reinstalling?

My air impact couldn't even come close to cracking them; It's almost 8 years old so it's probably getting a little tired; probably time for a new one. It definitely would have had no problem when it was new.
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Re: Million mile club

I just hammered down on them till I figured it was good and beat that edge down into the notch. It ain't coming off. Who the hell owns a 300-400 ft lb torque wrench


Or one could get a 3ft cheater bar and bounce a 100lb weight on it for close to 300ft lbs
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I just hammered down on them till I figured it was good and beat that edge down into the notch. It ain't coming off. Who the hell owns a 300-400 ft lb torque wrench


Or one could get a 3ft cheater bar and bounce a 100lb weight on it for close to 300ft lbs
Hammered them down with the impact? Shock and vibration ore not friends with bearings.
Over-torqued spindle nuts are also not friends with bearings.

It's not that hard to get 300ft/lbs with a big torque wrench if someone stands on the brakes for you. (With the car running; the brake booster really is a powerful little device.)
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Re: Million mile club

As in hammer down I gave the nut a few good impacts with my impact. It's doing fine. The gun is capable of up to 1000ft lbs of torque but I gave it nowhere near full capacity.

On the low setting it maxes out at 100ft lbs. then I gave it a few good whacks to up it
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