i'd love to get the Tein SS-P with EDFC but thats way to much, so i'm going to just lower it on springs for now and save up for some koni yellows. But i need to know if any one has dropped their car on S techs. I want to know if its really bad with stock shocks, i will be on them for atlest a year before i can get new shocks. if its really bad on stock shocks i'll just get the H techs and get koni reds. the only way i can get S techs is if it rides almost like stock, i drive my family around alot and i don't want them to get pushed around. that is why i was thinking about H techs, my friend's corolla is on them and feels just like stock, but can coner a little better. he think about 40% better, and i know for S techs it would be round 60 to 70% better. thanks for any info you guys can give me.