HID headlights

[blacknight]

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I have HID's also.
I aimed my beams a little lower and I have a set of eye lids and everything is perfectly fine with very little glare.

 

[angelplus]

That is what Shaved and Angel have been talking about..most of the members on this site with HIDs just have them in stock housing..If you aim them right then u should be ok but otherwise the glare is bad..Friend of mine had 6000K hids in stock housing but now has a retro...i think that 6000K is the highest u should go..the output was pretty good compared to stock...u can buy the kits from shaved..so send him a pm..

I personally would just save up for a retro...unless ur planning on actually using ur HID kit in stock housing correctly..because they can be very blinding since the light is scattered..

I have heard that HID kits have lots of hot spots in them..is this true?

Yes, they can cause a lot of hot spots that will blind on comming traffic. Though some cars come stock with HIDs without projector housing. But those headlights were designed for HIDs so that there aren't any hotspots.

Yeah, what blacknight said.. I was about to say something but you beat me to it

 

[Roadrage]

Good right up //straight to the point and no bull

 

[talontsiawd]

I think HID's are really nice. Both my parents have them on their car. I actually could care less how my headlight bulbs look but they are much better than halogen. The only reason why i don't think i'll put them in my accord is that i think retrofits look a bit funny. I actually concider it a downgrade in apperance. But the next car i buy, defineatly something with HID.

 

[Freedom_Fighter]

so with the 8000 kit the road is going to be less visual than stock lights?...

 

[shavedaccord]

so with the 8000 kit the road is going to be less visual than stock lights?...

No. You WILL have more output but the problem is 8000K is blue/violet. Blues and violets scatter the most readily in the human eye which causes fuzziness and glare. Example next time you drive by an airport look at the blue lights around the run way then compare them to say red lights or white lights..the blue appear to be more fuzzy. The K rating is called kelvin. It's basically color out output. Lumen's determines output. Keep in mind you will have improved output but smaller kelvins such as 6000K, 5000K, 4200K will actually have more lumens. 6000K in my opinion is the best all around kelvin when it comes to looks and performance.

 

[Freedom_Fighter]

i want like a white/blue or blue/white which ever it is .... so that would be 6000k?

 

[shavedaccord]

i want like a white/blue or blue/white which ever it is .... so that would be 6000k?

Correct

 

[SmrPants44]

HID is HID no matter how it is used, it still improves light output greatly. That the statement "You buy an HID kit to look good" is nonsense. The optics on the accords headlamps are actually great. There isn't a lot of glare really. 95% of the time people are blinded because headlamps are improperly aimed. And I have seen projectors that are seriously blinding depending on the angle etc the oncoming car is approaching. I know plenty of people who bought HID kits based on the light output alone not the look. I have sold kits to 60 year old men and women who just needed increased lighting performance at night.

The problem with HIDs is that it gives the illusion of greater visibility. It greatly enhances foregroud visibility but because of that fact your eyes get used to the increased foreground visibility and they arent as tuned to the places where your headlights dont go.

heres a quote from daniel stern
"The second point is even more crucial. You remember from above my statement that the eye has a different job to do at night than during the day; here's where that comes into play.

During the day, pretty much everything is illuminated relatively evenly. If it's sunny out, everything's bright. If it's cloudy out, contrast is reduced and colors are muted. If it's foggy out, everything's fuzzy. But at night, your world consists not of "everything", but of that which is illuminated by your headlamps. Everything outside of that "world" is dark. Which is fine, except that your "world" moves with you! The extreme contrast between your "world" (that which is illuminated) and everything else (not illuminated) creates the difficulty. That's why we have headlamp glare at night, why we squint when we come out of a movie theatre after watching a perfectly bright screen for 3 hours, why we hold our hand in front of our eyes when looking in the direction of the sunset and trying to read a road sign. It happens on that big scale (inside/outside your "world") and it also happens *within* that "world".

If you illuminate the foreground very strongly, your eyes will adapt to that big area of strong illumination, your pupils will become smaller, and your distance vision will be reduced. (On the other hand, if you take the route prescribed for so long by US headlamp regulations and have very LITTLE foreground illumination, you'll have a "black hole" in front of the car, and you'll be straining to see what you're about to run over...) "

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/disadvantages/disadvantages.html

i suggest that all of you read it hes a pretty well renowned headlight expert and its an interesting read to say the least.

 

[shavedaccord]

The problem with HIDs is that it gives the illusion of greater visibility. It greatly enhances foregroud visibility but because of that fact your eyes get used to the increased foreground visibility and they arent as tuned to the places where your headlights dont go.

heres a quote from daniel stern
"The second point is even more crucial. You remember from above my statement that the eye has a different job to do at night than during the day; here's where that comes into play.

During the day, pretty much everything is illuminated relatively evenly. If it's sunny out, everything's bright. If it's cloudy out, contrast is reduced and colors are muted. If it's foggy out, everything's fuzzy. But at night, your world consists not of "everything", but of that which is illuminated by your headlamps. Everything outside of that "world" is dark. Which is fine, except that your "world" moves with you! The extreme contrast between your "world" (that which is illuminated) and everything else (not illuminated) creates the difficulty. That's why we have headlamp glare at night, why we squint when we come out of a movie theatre after watching a perfectly bright screen for 3 hours, why we hold our hand in front of our eyes when looking in the direction of the sunset and trying to read a road sign. It happens on that big scale (inside/outside your "world") and it also happens *within* that "world".

If you illuminate the foreground very strongly, your eyes will adapt to that big area of strong illumination, your pupils will become smaller, and your distance vision will be reduced. (On the other hand, if you take the route prescribed for so long by US headlamp regulations and have very LITTLE foreground illumination, you'll have a "black hole" in front of the car, and you'll be straining to see what you're about to run over...) "

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/disadvantages/disadvantages.html

i suggest that all of you read it hes a pretty well renowned headlight expert and its an interesting read to say the least.

I actually beg to differ..I don't have any problem seeing ahead even though the foreground is very strongly lit..I think that varies from person to person and how well your eye sight is. Every lighting source has it's problems no doubt, but the argument here is does HID improve your visibility at night and is it worth it. I feel it's well worth it and it does improve your visibility.