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Whas up my fellow vtec enthusists. got a question bout kickpannels for our 6.5 speakers. is it sumthin tha can be bought or it is a custom job? second question, is it wise to but components that low? or should i just do it the normal way? id appreciate it if sumone can lend a helpin hand. lol
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Last time I looked, nobody was making them so they'd have to be bought. Imaging is much better for both passengers as long as each others legs don't get in the way......
 

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yeah as long as you have a line of sight pretty much the imaging should be better.

i'm not sure if anyone makes them for our cars, your best bet would be to check out Qlogic's product line probably if you're looking for something you can buy premade. otherwise you'll need to build it yourself or get a shop to install them for you
 

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here they go:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-3nitisMhvZC/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=182850&I=044K60061
theres all different colors, too. i knew i saw them somewhere. it was also the first result on google. i thought i had seen them somwhere when i was looking for a mount kit for my head unit.

unless you get shallow mount speakers, you might want to invest in these. i tried to fit mb quart rce 216s in the doors, and ill have to cut out the back of the weather shield and the back of the speaker grille, and then they MIGHT fit. i might have to get these if i cant make enough space in the door. mb quart dua's should fit since they are shallow mount. by the way, mb quarts are raw imo.

speakers are put that low so that they can be angled upwards, creating a higher soundstage. it also (and more importantly) creates a more equal length from the passenger speaker to your ear, and from the drivers side speaker to your ear. so instead of the speakers pointing to your legs, they are pointing at your ears. its the same principle of sitting in the exact middle of a home theater system. the speakers should be at eye level, pointed at you, and you should be an equal distance from each. in the car, its not possible, but the kick panels try to do it.

if youre like me and youre set on a pair of speakers that wont fit, go for the kick panels if you dont mind losing some foot space. or buy a shallow mount speaker set and buy an amp for em instead. im going to try to mod the door and get my mb's in there and buy an amp. otherwise...i will answer the call of the kick panels.

you can have them custom made, but that might cost you more than the $150 crutchfield wants. do some more research as far as kick panels and speakers go. also, im going to put my tweeters in the dash where the stock ones are no matter what, just because i like the sound of a high front stage. sorry for being a little long winded, but did i miss anything? oh, one more thing. its easier to put dynamat inside the kick panel. and the speaker will be more efficient in there cause it doesnt have to fill up the air space inside the door and then project into the car. thats all ive got tonight.
 

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well this is the situation...im tryin to get the infinity 6010 components. when i first replaced my speakers i wanted infinity's all around ( 6x9, and 6.5) but my boy told me tha the 6.5 wouldnt fit, i returned them n got sum polks. after awhile, i installed an amp, it blew out my passenger polk. so now im wonderin if the infinity components r gunna give me the same problem as the coaxils. i was tryin to find shallow mounts, but no luck..

to make a long story short..if i decide not to do the kickpanels + inf components,...which components should i do? ive got a rockford 400.4 amp waitin for em!...plse help fellas! lol
-Elitestyles

oh by the way ..i just received my alpine type r 12" 2 ohm sub....still gotta tweek it but..i luv it so far.
 

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EliteStyles6th said:
well this is the situation...im tryin to get the infinity 6010 components. when i first replaced my speakers i wanted infinity's all around ( 6x9, and 6.5) but my boy told me tha the 6.5 wouldnt fit, i returned them n got sum polks. after awhile, i installed an amp, it blew out my passenger polk. so now im wonderin if the infinity components r gunna give me the same problem as the coaxils. i was tryin to find shallow mounts, but no luck..

to make a long story short..if i decide not to do the kickpanels + inf components,...which components should i do? ive got a rockford 400.4 amp waitin for em!...plse help fellas! lol
-Elitestyles

oh by the way ..i just received my alpine type r 12" 2 ohm sub....still gotta tweek it but..i luv it so far.

well, heres the biggest challenge of installing speakers in the doors. how much do the speakers stick out? have you taken the door panel off and looked at the space at all, especially with the window rolled all the way down? the only reason 6.5s wouldnt fit is if they are too deep (like my *dream* mb quart rce 216s). theyll fit maybe, but some stuff has to be trimmed. are you set on these infinity components (i mean sound wise)? ill never buy coax speakers again, especially if i have a stock tweeter location. is the rf 400.4 100x4 watts rms or peak? im not a big fan of rf stuff, so i dont know how they rate their stuff. i heard they overrate some amps by up to 15% for prestige. they use 14.4 volts instead of something in the middle of 12.8 and 14.4 and thats the reason the "sc-something 06" standards were created but thats another thread altogether. if you want to wait till spring (or when its warm and im at my parents house), i can tell you what it takes to put in the rce's. it looks like they will work.

umm, if you want more details on where i think youd have to trim the panel and weather guard thingy, i could borrow some pics from this site and point out where you need to cut. but if no one cares, i wont :p.

as far as the blowing goes, make sure the impedance, polarity, phase, and especially the gain on the amp is not too high. mb quart dua's are the speaker i recommend for shallow mounts, but theyre fairly pricey (around $275 i think). my favorite ebay seller auroracoustic doesnt have em though.

any other :confused:'s? anything not clear or i missed?
 

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ok im back lol.. did sum hmk on the compnents. i checked the mounting depth on the 2 diff components Infinity makes. i also checked the mounting depth on the Polk coaxil tha i currently have in there. on paper it would seem the infinity's would fit better than the polks, but those specs r for the 2005 edition components. they might have changed in 2 yrs. (thats when i tried to install the inf.) to answer ur question..my rf amp is putting out 100x4 rms. u might be right on rf amps dont put out like a nun on as sunday morns, but hey its all i have for now. i took the panels off and checked em out, doesnt look like nething is wierd. i kinda am set on the inf components for the fact that their RMS is 90w. all the others are like 60,70w. i figured if the rf amp is puttin 100x4, tha'll be 100w to the 90..i guess my logic might work..hopefully. if u have ne other suggestions, id aappreciate it. maybe i shouldnt go with the inf? im open to ideas. good look people!
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since youve got the speakers and amp already, you might as well go with them. the power ratings match up well, and infinity is a good quality product. it sounds like youre not exactly happy with what youve got (judging from your other thread about making upgrades). the specs should (should) be the same year to year. otherwise theyd give it a different model number or put a "v2" or something on it.

you said you tried to install the infinitys already? why didnt they fit? if you trim the door panel and that plastic thing behind the speaker they should fit. theres .25"-.5" gain in space if you cut the plactic shield thing, and i didnt pay that much attention to the door panel. but if they need less than .75" you should be able to make them fit. it looks like theres some free space behind the armrest, and thats where im going to put my crossover. i hope it fits there, cause mine is frickin huge (4"x6"x2" approx). id say unless they absolutley wont fit, theres no reason to buy anything else because youve got everything all lined up to install.
 

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I installed some 6.5" naks that were 2.68" (68mm) deep, this was some trouble and i am of the opinion that getting anything even slightly bigger in will be very difficult.....

Dont forget to make it air tight!

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