Coolant leak? + overheating

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You DO NOT need to use Honda coolant. Prestone/Peak coolant bottle for all vehicles will work just fine. You can buy premixed or concentrated and mix it 50/50 yourself with tap water or deionized water(recommended)

The correct way to bleed the coolant would be to
-Open radiator cap on cold engine
-Top overflow bottle to just slightly below the max line.
-Use a 10mm socket and open the bleeder screw
-Use a funnel and add coolant to the radiator until you see a steady stream of coolant coming out of the bleeder screw. Once so tighten the bleeder screw down(without breaking it)
-Start the car with the radiator cap off and allow it to run until the radiator fans come on once or about 5-10minutes to allow all air to escape the system. If the level gets close to the bottom of the rad neck TOP IT UP (do not worry if the coolant starts overflowing a tiny bit). If you are worried about it overflowing and making a bit of a mess then you can take a funnel and use electrical tape on its tip to extend it so it will fit snuggly on the radiator head.
-Put the radiator cap back on and wait for the rad fans to come on if they didn't already.
-If the radiator fans do not come on you've got an issue with either the fans or the fan switch.

Ok i did all that but my fans didn't come on even after I put the cap on they did however come on when i turned the A/C on:thinking:
 

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Ok i did all that but my fans didn't come on even after I put the cap on they did however come on when i turned the A/C on:thinking:

Did both fans came on when you turned the A/C on?
If no, then it could be the fans motor/relay/fuse that could have an issue
If Yes, then run the car in idle for 5-10-15minutes while keeping the revs at about 1.5-2k rpm. If the fans still fail to come on then you might need to replace the radiator fan switch(should be close by the thermostat)

PS. Do not let the temp rise more then halfway. Shut the car off if such happens.
 

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You DO NOT need to use Honda coolant. Prestone/Peak coolant bottle for all vehicles will work just fine. You can buy premixed or concentrated and mix it 50/50 yourself with tap water or deionized water(recommended)

Sorry to bring back this thread but I was driving my accord today and decided to peak into my owner's manual and it says:

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Stunna, this is from the 2000 v6 owners manual. Doesn't the language contradict what you're saying? I am assuming you're probably going to need to change the coolant more often if you're not using honda coolant to make up for it. Even then why take the chance?
 

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Sorry to bring back this thread but I was driving my accord today and decided to peak into my owner's manual and it says:

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Stunna, this is from the 2000 v6 owners manual. Doesn't the language contradict what you're saying? I am assuming you're probably going to need to change the coolant more often if you're not using honda coolant to make up for it. Even then why take the chance?

The owners manual also says to use copper plugs only but others work fine as many have tried and tested. The manual possibly states to only use OEM parts as replacement to but look at all our cars.

As long as you buy a coolant made for Hondas or specified all vehicles and silicate free then there will be no issue.
I think every joe, john and nancy have used Premixed prestone universal coolant with no issues. If you care more use zerex. You should flush your coolant about every 36 mths/ 72,000 km anyways

If you can find me proof that shows that non-honda coolant ruined any part of the cooling system then i'm all ears. Keep in mind if the user never changed their coolant and blamed it on the fluid is a different story.

PS. You do understand that when most shops service your cooling system they'll end up putting universal stuff right? But hey if you want to be anal and use only Honda coolant then do it.

The only difference from Honda Type 2 to the rest is potassium hydroxide which is equivialand and can be substitued by other corrosion inhibitor substances such as orthophosphoric acid, octanoic acid, sebacic acid, para-tert.-butyl benzoate, sodium benzoate, sodium molybdate, mercaptobenzothiazole sodium salt, benzotriazole, tolyltriazole, sodium nitrate, sodium nitrite, borax, triethanolamine.

MSDS sheets for you to look upon as well.
http://www.2shared.com/document/-tGGftYW/Peak_LongLife_Concentrate.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/G2U_Tc6Q/Peak_5050_Long_Life.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/FSGrlJEY/Prestone_Extended_Life_Concent.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/Vi1rsKoe/Prestone_5050_Prediluted.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/pofNt4te/Honda_Type_2.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/JS1iBuCg/Zerex_Asian_Info_Tests_Sheed.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/rbJqWtU7/Zerex_Asian_V2.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/APLnAGng/Zerex_Asian_V1.html

If you want to be even more paranoid about it go and test the pH of Honda Type 2 coolant vs the rest and look at the results
 
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The owners manual also says to use copper plugs only but others work fine as many have tried and tested. The manual possibly states to only use OEM parts as replacement to but look at all our cars.

As long as you buy a coolant made for Hondas or specified all vehicles and silicate free then there will be no issue.
I think every joe, john and nancy have used Premixed prestone universal coolant with no issues. If you care more use zerex. You should flush your coolant about every 36 mths/ 72,000 km anyways

If you can find me proof that shows that non-honda coolant ruined any part of the cooling system then i'm all ears. Keep in mind if the user never changed their coolant and blamed it on the fluid is a different story.

PS. You do understand that when most shops service your cooling system they'll end up putting universal stuff right? But hey if you want to be anal and use only Honda coolant then do it.

The only difference from Honda Type 2 to the rest is potassium hydroxide which is equivialand and can be substitued by other corrosion inhibitor substances such as orthophosphoric acid, octanoic acid, sebacic acid, para-tert.-butyl benzoate, sodium benzoate, sodium molybdate, mercaptobenzothiazole sodium salt, benzotriazole, tolyltriazole, sodium nitrate, sodium nitrite, borax, triethanolamine.

MSDS sheets for you to look upon as well.
http://www.2shared.com/document/-tGGftYW/Peak_LongLife_Concentrate.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/G2U_Tc6Q/Peak_5050_Long_Life.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/FSGrlJEY/Prestone_Extended_Life_Concent.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/Vi1rsKoe/Prestone_5050_Prediluted.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/pofNt4te/Honda_Type_2.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/JS1iBuCg/Zerex_Asian_Info_Tests_Sheed.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/rbJqWtU7/Zerex_Asian_V2.html
http://www.2shared.com/document/APLnAGng/Zerex_Asian_V1.html

If you want to be even more paranoid about it go and test the pH of Honda Type 2 coolant vs the rest and look at the results

whoa, settle down Stunna. I don't mean to offend you. I'm not being paranoid either. Just pointing out the manual says the same thing about the coolant that it says for the power steering fluid and ATF.

I do realize there are many things we can certainly use aftermarket, even fluids. It was my understanding that for example, the ATF and powersteering fluid as well as the coolant should really be OEM. I have read that some people have used alternatives that *have* worked. I just haven't heard people using prestone in a honda. I guess I don't read enough. But if you do, that's fine, but please don't take offense when I asked you for where you got your information. You really don't need all that technical jargon because my post was a sincere attempt at clarification and nothing else. I know from the manual that honda coolant will NOT ruin the parts of the cooling system but I didn't know that prestone won't either. While I appreciate your explanation, I certainly won't take it as proof and will continue to use honda coolant. (and not b.c. I think prestone will ruin parts of the cooling system.)
 
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prestone in all my cars for years.... only time my accord had honda coolant was the day it drove off the assembly line
 

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whoa, settle down Stunna. I don't mean to offend you. I'm not being paranoid either. Just pointing out the manual says the same thing about the coolant that it says for the power steering fluid and ATF.

I do realize there are many things we can certainly use aftermarket, even fluids. It was my understanding that for example, the ATF and powersteering fluid as well as the coolant should really be OEM. I have read that some people have used alternatives that *have* worked. I just haven't heard people using prestone in a honda. I guess I don't read enough. But if you do, that's fine, but please don't take offense when I asked you for where you got your information. You really don't need all that technical jargon because my post was a sincere attempt at clarification and nothing else. I know from the manual that honda coolant will NOT ruin the parts of the cooling system but I didn't know that prestone won't either. While I appreciate your explanation, I certainly won't take it as proof and will continue to use honda coolant. (and not b.c. I think prestone will ruin parts of the cooling system.)

I think you misunderstood my post. It wouldve made no sense of me to tell you "No you're not 100% correct" without backing up and supporting my points with true facts/data.

You brought up an argument and I mentioned all the proof to show you that there is no great difference and that Prestone/Peak/Zerex can be used on a honda with no issues as they are pretty similar to Honda Type 2 coolant. They're just not blue. I even told you to test your coolant for its pH level if you liked to further set your belief level in your mind. In lieu of me just giving my opinion or others opinion I showed you the MSDS sheets which contain the chemical/substance makeup of the products in question so you can compare apples to apples and not peoples opinions.

The MSDS etc where for you to look for yourself if you wished.

In the end you can do whatever you please as its your car and it does not matter to me whether you use Honda coolant or water from your tap.

Personally the only thing i use OEM is ATF and PS fluid. Brake/oil/coolant/washer fluid is all aftermarket.

PS. What you were shown is cold hard proof. What you choose to believe is a whole other thing.
 
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I am not looking for an argument. Why can't we just have a discussion. I thought using aftermarket coolant will have a similar effect as aftermarket Atf and ps. like u said its ur car do what u want and believe what u want. Let's just leave it at that.....
 

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I am not looking for an argument. Why can't we just have a discussion. I thought using aftermarket coolant will have a similar effect as aftermarket Atf and ps. like u said its ur car do what u want and believe what u want. Let's just leave it at that.....

lol sure. and we are having a discussion....isnt that what this is?

Fyi: I said "you brought up an argument"...as in you brought up a discussion/a topic/a statement/an idea. Catch my drift?

I didn't say lets argue as in to fight lolz.
 

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i see an arguement, but not a hostile one....

u asked a question, stunna answered with cold hard facts.... dun see anything wrong with tht :thinking:
 
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