G'sAccord01
Well-Known Member
Theres something I want to write but cant since im on my phone and it'll take to long. Most of you probably won't like it ether since it favors street racers. I'll write when I get home.
Difference between spirited driving and street racing
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DarkSideAccord
nadeshiko fobz ftw..
good recipe for a racing-related incident
is an industrial park a sanctioned racing ground? are there medics, firefighters and technicians there to make sure everything is under control? also, most if not all industrial grounds are private property. Empty or not, u are breaking rules and if an incident occurs, guess who gets to sue who?
ryan s
they dont think it
who gets to choose whose lives "are put on the line"?
G'sAccord01
Well-Known Member
Okay now I could write what I wanted to say ...
Reading through everyones comments I get the impression that you guys see spirited driving as being okay but street racing being completely wrong. I disagree with that.
IDK if its because maybe I have a different image of street racing but the people I know to street race don't just get on a highway and drive fast till one of them decides they have had enough. THATS NOT A RACE. Everytime I go to a race we meet up in a neutral location and wait for the racers to look over their cars and wait for any spectors (not just random ppl ether) Right before the race takes place someone goes and drives around in the area where the race will take place to make sure there isn't anything on the road or cops hiding in the bushes lol ... Then we all head out everyone moves to the sides the races line up the cars and run ... immediately after the race everyone goes back to the nuetral area for a few mins and then we scatter. If theres someone else that wants to run then we scatter for an hour or so and repeat the same thing. The areas where they race aren't place where cars tend to go to ethier ... They are usually truck routes and done around 1 am. We have a few locations in my area where they take place the most used one is in a area where theres a lot of warehouses and during those hours factorys are closed = 0 cars on the road.
Races on highways aren't races to me. They are pointless and wreckless. And although I do it I still don't think spirited driving is okay. wheather the conditions are good or not wheather u checked ur car or not. Just because you have control of the situation doesn't mean someone else does. What if the accident isn't ur fault. The difference from going 80 when u should have been going 45 could kill someone instead of just cause a broken fender and bumper.
Thats all I'll say for now
Reading through everyones comments I get the impression that you guys see spirited driving as being okay but street racing being completely wrong. I disagree with that.
IDK if its because maybe I have a different image of street racing but the people I know to street race don't just get on a highway and drive fast till one of them decides they have had enough. THATS NOT A RACE. Everytime I go to a race we meet up in a neutral location and wait for the racers to look over their cars and wait for any spectors (not just random ppl ether) Right before the race takes place someone goes and drives around in the area where the race will take place to make sure there isn't anything on the road or cops hiding in the bushes lol ... Then we all head out everyone moves to the sides the races line up the cars and run ... immediately after the race everyone goes back to the nuetral area for a few mins and then we scatter. If theres someone else that wants to run then we scatter for an hour or so and repeat the same thing. The areas where they race aren't place where cars tend to go to ethier ... They are usually truck routes and done around 1 am. We have a few locations in my area where they take place the most used one is in a area where theres a lot of warehouses and during those hours factorys are closed = 0 cars on the road.
Races on highways aren't races to me. They are pointless and wreckless. And although I do it I still don't think spirited driving is okay. wheather the conditions are good or not wheather u checked ur car or not. Just because you have control of the situation doesn't mean someone else does. What if the accident isn't ur fault. The difference from going 80 when u should have been going 45 could kill someone instead of just cause a broken fender and bumper.
Thats all I'll say for now
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RedRyder
Save the manuals
^I appreciate you stating your opinion, especially since you are really the only one so far that sees them as the same thing. Your point about deserted roads and the areas these races take place in is interesting (esp since we all say that's where we do spirited driving), though what are your thoughts on people's competitive spirit outweighing logic/common sense/regard for safety? They want to win right? That's when people can make bad decisions. And night time is not the safest time for aggressive driving, street racing or not.
On a side note, I specifically asked that no specific member or thread is referred to, whether they are member son this site or not. I kindly ask you to edit your post and remove the mention of that incident. That has no place here, thanks.
EDIT: Thank you.
On a side note, I specifically asked that no specific member or thread is referred to, whether they are member son this site or not. I kindly ask you to edit your post and remove the mention of that incident. That has no place here, thanks.
EDIT: Thank you.
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Valet
IS300 SX > Accord
that's also a good point. I've been on back roads where there's no one ever really there. And I go over a basically bling and curving hill, I see someone with there truck in there driveway about to pull out. Theres plenty of space to break if tet do pull out. He clearly saw me coming but decides to pull out way after he saw me and I saw him, and I have to completely lock up and slide into the other lane to avoid rear ending him at a much higher rate of speed then his basically 0mph.
Freaking idiots.
fastflyinaccord
Well-Known Member
I don't consider this "spririted driving." I consider it reckless abandonment. Spirited driving to me is 10-15 over on a back road
G'sAccord01
Well-Known Member
Sorry about that I actually edited it before even reading ur post ... Didn't want to start that again.
And "competitive spirit outweighing logic/common sense/regard for safety? They want to win right?" ... That sounds like a race to me. And honestly I don't do "spirited driving" in the same area I spoke of. The areas I spoke of have no cars coming in the opposite direction or even heading in the same direction for you to switch lanes. I'm not going to say I haven't heard of people racing from a roll because even I've done that but we assign a destination (usually an exit) and when done, again we do a pass over and done during times where there would be no traffic and on routes where cars are rarely seen anyway. also I've only done it a handfull of times and we've always had 2 cars that would drop back and basically slow down traffic. (I know its selfesh but it would be more selfish to run and not take others into any consideration)
I'm not sayin one is right and the other is wrong. To me they are both the same WRONG but if i had a choice I'd rather street race (the way I explained it)
I guess it depends where its done then because the times I've raced from a roll its been on a route 19 and its basically from a certain exit to a certain exit and that section is a straight shot and it is about half a mile long.
And "competitive spirit outweighing logic/common sense/regard for safety? They want to win right?" ... That sounds like a race to me. And honestly I don't do "spirited driving" in the same area I spoke of. The areas I spoke of have no cars coming in the opposite direction or even heading in the same direction for you to switch lanes. I'm not going to say I haven't heard of people racing from a roll because even I've done that but we assign a destination (usually an exit) and when done, again we do a pass over and done during times where there would be no traffic and on routes where cars are rarely seen anyway. also I've only done it a handfull of times and we've always had 2 cars that would drop back and basically slow down traffic. (I know its selfesh but it would be more selfish to run and not take others into any consideration)
I'm not sayin one is right and the other is wrong. To me they are both the same WRONG but if i had a choice I'd rather street race (the way I explained it)
I guess it depends where its done then because the times I've raced from a roll its been on a route 19 and its basically from a certain exit to a certain exit and that section is a straight shot and it is about half a mile long.
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GoldnKnight22
TWM:TLMF
Some of you have different definitions of "spirited" driving, as well. When would 80 in a 45 ever be okay? For those saying "I know what my car can handle," that's good that you do. And more importantly, you won't be coming close to those limits that you "know so well" if you want to remain safe to yourself and to others.
Spirited driving is being able to enjoy your car well within its capabilities and leaving no doubt in your mind that no one is at an elevated risk of danger. If you're squealing tires or crossing a yellow that isn't VERY obvious that there is no other car ahead of you in either direction.... You're doing it wrong.
Examples:
Blind corner?
Slow down to speed limit, or below.
Wide open corner where you can see the road ahead and any possible traffic?
Proceed at a speed that is still completely safe, but may be somewhat over the speed limit.
Night time?
Just not safe enough, IMO.
There's really no form of racing on any road or parking area that's acceptable in my eyes. Regardless of time, traffic, conditions, whatever. That's just how sh*t goes wrong in a hurry.
Spirited driving is being able to enjoy your car well within its capabilities and leaving no doubt in your mind that no one is at an elevated risk of danger. If you're squealing tires or crossing a yellow that isn't VERY obvious that there is no other car ahead of you in either direction.... You're doing it wrong.
Examples:
Blind corner?
Slow down to speed limit, or below.
Wide open corner where you can see the road ahead and any possible traffic?
Proceed at a speed that is still completely safe, but may be somewhat over the speed limit.
Night time?
Just not safe enough, IMO.
There's really no form of racing on any road or parking area that's acceptable in my eyes. Regardless of time, traffic, conditions, whatever. That's just how sh*t goes wrong in a hurry.
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G'sAccord01
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Your from NJ you should know everyone drives 5-10 over on the norm on mostly any highway so ur spirited driving is basically just 5mph over everyone else ... sorry but I don't consider that being spirited driving. And I'm not saying your going to get on a highway and the entire time ur going to be going 80. I'm saying when I do it if the speed limit is 45 the most I'll go is 80 if even that and it would be in a short burst just to see how quicly I can get it to that speed. V6 gets you there fairly quickly.
