J32a2 from TL type s

spiggons420 · Jul 23, 2014

Thanks for the input RedRyder,

I was indeed looking for a relatively easy swap, but after the guy said he would sell the whole setup for 400 bucks I began to think bigger. The setup was described as having a newly installed engine(60,000), but the tranny was experiencing problems prior to the accident that ended the tl's life..

I guess you are right with the options provided. If I swap in the 5speed I would need to get the tranny rebuilt though.. but I guess after that I would basically only need the tl/cl ecu.. Would I specifically need a Type-S ecu? I still need to do more research on the 5speed swap, but ideally I would love the 6speed.. does anyone have an opinion of the difficulty level of the 5speed swap vs the 6speed swap? Also, I would never swap to the tl body haha. I prefer 2doors and personally I think the 6thgen Accord coupe is the nicest looking Accord ever haha :ehcapt:

The 8th and 9th gen coupes are pretty sexy too tho lol

RedRyder · Jul 23, 2014

You would want the ECU that belongs with your specific motor. So since you have an '02 auto TL-S motor, you'd want the ECU from the same car (or '03), or an auto CL-S ECU. There is a difference between the J32a1 (non Type-S) vs. J32a2 (Type-S).

If you are indeed thinking bigger now, I'd go manual. If you have someone rebuild that 5spd for you, that can cost just as much or more than a 6spd trans, depending on what you find and which of the 3 options you choose. Unless you are wanting the convenience of an auto trans.

Can't speak to an auto swap, I'd ask the members I mentioned, or search here and on V6P.

spiggons420 · Jul 23, 2014

Ya I will need to do some serious thinking about the best option for me... Supposed I just want to swap the top end from the j32a2... would there be in issue with my current distributor setup? It seems that the distributor is attached to the cam..? I found this link: http://www.v6performance.net/forums/6g-honda-accord-performance-discussion/77721-j32a2-swap-distributor-j30a1.html

but they seem to be taking about the j32a1, and they say those cams are already machined... So would I just need to get one of the J32a2 cams machined? and then I would be able to do the top end swap and keep the distributor and not mess with any electronics..

Thanks all for any input.

Spencer

coops-sedan · Jul 23, 2014

spiggons420 said:
hello everyone,

Thank you all for the extremely helpful information. It was exactly what I needed to assure myself it would be a good purchase. I should be getting the whole setup (engine/tranny/alt/ps/etc) for $400. It seems like a crazy deal.. am i correct in thinking this? And supposedly it only has 60,000 miles and a new timing belt.. I shall keep my fingers crossed. And since I am most likely going through with the purchase I will use this as my build thread for any future questions/comments I might have.

On another note, I apologize for any indigestion I might have caused among my fellow 6th gen accord enthusiasts. I got a little too excited about the CL ad and did not want the opportunity to get away. Anyways, in the future I will try to refrain from posting redundant topics.

Thanks again everyone, and feel free to continue posting ideas you might have about what I should do with my purchase. I am still unsure exactly what I am going to end up doing... Also, besides compression check any personal tips you might have about checking an engine before buying(already out of the car)?

Spencer

I'm glad you were able to purchase your parts quickly and confidently before it got away from you. As things tend to disappear quickly on CL. No need to apologize as you've done nothing wrong. I get excited as well and a purchase that can be had for a steal is an adrenaline rush. No doubt there is so much information on this forum. You will be skillfully guided with whichever route you decide to go. Good luck.

Jarrett · Jul 23, 2014

How many engines has anyone on this forum seen that have lasted a fairly decent amount of miles (20,000+) that are 86mm bore blocks with 89mm diameter combustion chambers on them? Doing something like that you're creating a ring-shaped hot spot around the combustion chamber and you're begging to blow a head gasket. It's the same philosophy that goes into the H-series head on an F22/F23 block. It just goes against anything anyone with slight mechanical know-how would tell you. It's saying, "I'm too poor or lazy to do things the right way, so I'll just take a massive shortcut." Sure it makes power. The valves are enormous! But the negatives that you get from such a combination should tell you to go ahead and do it the right way.

If you have a full J32A2 with the transmission, wiring harness TL-S mounts and ECU why not just get a transmission from an '05-'06 Honda Odyssey from car-part.com for around $800 and call it good? Trying to take shortcuts because the other options are too hard for you isn't the right answer.

I know exactly how douchey this sounds but please understand that most people on this site don't even swap their own engines in, much less build them. A "shop" will do anything you want if you pay them enough, so they're not 100% reliable for giving you good information, either. Your options for staying with an automatic transmission are not that many. The 6-speed swap, even with its own complications, simplifies things immensely.

spiggons420 · Jul 23, 2014

Hey Jarrett,

Thanks for your input. I just spoke with the guy again and he still has the whole car, the engine/trans have just been pulled out.. So now I can get anything else I need for the swap to 5speed. I think this will be my cheapest option for now. If i can score everything for around 500, and swap to a 5 speed paddle shift.. I may decide to go that route.. Although I will admit the 6 speed is rather alluring :love:

and as far as the shops I have been doing all the work on her for the past 2 years or so and I will probably end up attempting this swap myself. Besides I don't know of any shops around 904 fl that have experience.. anyone know any?

so I found this thread: http://www.v6performance.net/forums/6g-honda-accord-performance-discussion/207668-5-speed-automatic-transmission-swap-into-2001-accord.html

but it is not specific to my situation (99 j30a1 a/t ->02 tl-s a/t) Does anyone have any info on someone who has done this before, with the paddle shift.. If i have the ecu is it as simple as unplugging the accord ecu and plugging in the tl-s ecu?

and then for hood clearance i think ill opt for the j37 IM.. which ive read will clear up any possible issues.. correct?

Thanks all, I will no doubt be frequenting the sight more now that i have lined up this set up... I think roughy $500 is worth an increase of 60+hp...

Also i believe it was in the thread posted above, but somewhere I was reading that because of the weight differences programmed into the ecu, the car will reach optimum shift speed before the ecu wants to shift... any input on this claim?

Thanks again,

Spencer

spiggons420 · Jul 24, 2014

So i got an update on the offer, it's now 1300 for the whole wrecked tl-s with a receipt for a new 45,000 engine and trans that was replaced recently. Anddd the old engime/trans with 100,000 miles delivered to my house.. i was mistaken, its the old setup with the semi bad trans... so im asking everyones opinions, doea it make sense to buy and get what i need for the 5 speed swap.. amd then sell/part out everything else?? Will i make my money back?

Thanks for any input

spiggons420 · Jul 24, 2014

Sorry its the old setup That's out of the car. The new 45,000 mile setup is still installed in the wrecked tl-s.. so i will get both setups... also will i need anything else nesodes the whole tl-s in order to do the swap?