Let me clear a few things up... the heads to the bolts are dome shaped there for nothing to hold onto as I take the nut off underneath the car. I was trying to avoided taking a grinder to the bolt heads, cause I don't own one. I kinda got the common sense end of it from the beginning, I just thought that someone else may have had a more constructive advice than trying to comment on my intelligence. But thank you all for at least visiting my thread I greatly appreciate your time and effort. 
