Seriously man? I'm no noob to this site. The most I've seen that are at least 12 inches are the 5 lugs. The closest I've found for a 4 lug is an 11 inch ebc for a prelude. I'm seeing if anyone can give me suggestions on actually finding a 12 inch 4 lug one for our cars. If you can actually list up what other disc rotors from different cars that can actually work on our cars then you'd be helping, but right now I'm searching for an answer from the members of this site.