FRP OEM lip kit on ebay

[talontsiawd]

Buy it, you'd be doing us all a favor to test the fitment on those FRP kits. I've been eyeing one up for a long long time, especially after my OEM rear lip snapped in half when it got bumped by another car. Those are supposed to FLEX thats why I payed 200 dollars for it. I don't think it's worth so much if it doesn't flex like it's supposed to.

This kit will not flex like urathane at all. There is some "give" to it but part of the reason is that it is so thin. I wouldn't worry about the sides and rear at all, just the front, as I said. OEM wasn't an option for me in the front and fiberglass is what I needed. I wouldn't recommend it to someone with a 98-00.

 

[TheHunter]

No I mean the OEM lip is supposed to be urethane/flex like it, however it didn't. I know the fiberglass kits wont flex, right?

 

[MoneyPit]

^^nope.

The construction of the OEM kit isn't much to brag about, honestly. I was rear-ended last summer and my OEM rear lip exploded from flexing--it didn't even take a direct hit. I'm not sure what OEM is made out of, but any of you who have any OEM parts know that they are very stiff, almost like ABS. I'm not even sure they'd be any more reliable than FRP.

I'm working on my fitting my OEM front lip on the 2002 bumper right now, and I kinda wish I got the FRP so that if it explodes it'll be twice as easy/cheap to fix...

 

[talontsiawd]

No I mean the OEM lip is supposed to be urethane/flex like it, however it didn't. I know the fiberglass kits wont flex, right?

Well, they say it is flexible, and it is a bit more than normal fiberglass, that is why I thought you were refering to the aftermarket kit.

The good thing about fiberglass is that is much more repairable though, to as good or better than it came. You can theoritically plasic weld urathane to as good as new but I have yet to actually see someone skilled enough to do so. It always tends to recrack at the same place.

 

[RedRyder]

I think we have the wrong understanding of the term "flexing" when we're talking OEM. Getting rear ended and a lip flexing are two different things. The OEM lip is designed to take pressure from weather elements and small debris that affect a small section of surface area of the lip relative to the whole piece.

The OEM lip can take the everyday abuse from the road, but getting rear ended is going to crack it because if you look at how the OEM rear lip is fastened to the bumper, there are about 8-10 screws that hold the lip and bumper together, evenly distributed all the way across. This means that each 5-6 inches or so between each hole where the screw is can only flex within its space. Getting rear ended affects a greater portion of the lip and as a whole, doesn't give it anywhere to go, because the bumper and lip when bolted together like this can't move/flex in harmony - the holes and screws are rigid & something will give. Perhaps if Honda had used fewer screws over a greater distance across the rear, or a more flexible mounting system, more flexing would be allowed for getting rear ended.

That is my understanding anyway. I wish they were more flexible because I worry about my kit. I almost bought HECz's front as an extra to have on hand!

Oh and rep for you Raul for being the guinea pig for many lol.

 

[TheHunter]

Yep you guys pretty much summed it up. It would definitely be easier to repair a fiberglass lip. Hopefully we'll know once and for all if the frp one is worth it soon.

 

[Raul]

This kit will not flex like urathane at all. There is some "give" to it but part of the reason is that it is so thin. I wouldn't worry about the sides and rear at all, just the front, as I said. OEM wasn't an option for me in the front and fiberglass is what I needed. I wouldn't recommend it to someone with a 98-00.

ahh dude you are kinda late, i already ordered the lip. Oh well, lets see if it fits *fingers crossed*.
Not gona put on the lip during the winter at all. It will be on only for the meets, cruises etc.

Btw genuine OEM and replica oem has no difference when there is a strong impact. My genuine lip shattered into pieces on highway this summer

thanks for the rep points Chris. I will get back at your pm soon. Guys give me more rep points!

After I get the lip, I will make a separate thread which will describe everything from receiving the lip to mounting it on the car.

 

[MoneyPit]

I think we have the wrong understanding of the term "flexing" when we're talking OEM. Getting rear ended and a lip flexing are two different things.

lol.

Any urethane lip on the planet would flex with the bumper if it didn't take a direct impact. The more fastening points the lip has to the rear bumper, the more similar the "flexing" is required between the two. Any time you hardmount two pieces that have different flex rates, you run the risk of the "stiffer" one breaking. Like I said in my case, the lip wasn't actually hit--the bumper took the direct impact, and it didn't crack--but the lip exploded (because it isn't "flexible" like the OEM urethane bumper).

I think I understand what "flexing" means. Lol.

 

[RedRyder]

^Don't take it personally man, I am just expressing my take on the subject. I disagree with you, but I respect your opinion.

 

[talontsiawd]

Yep you guys pretty much summed it up. It would definitely be easier to repair a fiberglass lip. Hopefully we'll know once and for all if the frp one is worth it soon.

I have had the kit on my car for 6 months. I widend the rear 1in and the front is basically custom all around but it is worth it IMO. I have bottomed out the sides with no damage, somebody tapped the rear, no damage. I cracked the front though on an unmarked construction "obstical". Trying to get them to pay, nothing that should have happened and would have cracked an oem front.

ahh dude you are kinda late, i already ordered the lip. Oh well, lets see if it fits *fingers crossed*.
Not gona put on the lip during the winter at all. It will be on only for the meets, cruises etc.

You will be happy. The only part the kind of sucks is the sides. I put them over my OEM sides. If you don't, you will have to do some custom mounting (no tabs). The rear actually doesn't have oem like mounting but it is easy to mount with screws. Front, I can't say as I hacked it up alot.