Unorthodox Pullies 4 banger

ccordex00

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 20, 2007
Posts
2,218
Reaction score
3
Location
Santiago/Chile
I've done some research but so far there's no concrete answers about the gains and problems when using the underdrive set from UR on a 4 banger. Some people say it's ok for a v6 since they don't mess with the balance of the crank but how about 4 bangers? anyone have any experience using this set??..if properly installed are there any chances of messing up engine components?
 

FallenAngelHIM

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 24, 2005
Posts
3,850
Reaction score
10
Location
Miami, FL
i have the aem tru-power pulley pack. in the course of my research about pulleys, i find that it's best not to mess with the crank pulley unless you work in a mechanic shop that can repair it. the aem pulley set is just the alternator and powersteering, i think. there is a UR pulley kit that is without the crank pulley. its safe to use underdrive, its safe to use lightweight, but i wouldn't use a crank pulley since it will affect the cylinders and rods.
 

BlkCurrantKord

Super Moderator
Joined
Sep 7, 2005
Posts
10,198
Reaction score
141
Location
Ohio
There's been no documented evidence of a lightened crank pulley damaging an engine. If there was damage, it was from install error. Fluidampr makes the best "pulley" out there for the H/F engine. However it requires losing P/S.
 

Crono139

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 29, 2005
Posts
823
Reaction score
2
Location
NJ
There's been no documented evidence of a lightened crank pulley damaging an engine.

Exactly. No problems have been blamed solely on a lightened crank pulley.

As a side note, UR has two types of pulley kits available. One is an underdrive kit, while the other has stock diameter pulleys.
 

zitro_pr

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 1, 2007
Posts
152
Reaction score
0
Location
Puerto Rico
Aem tru-power pulley

i have the aem tru-power pulley pack. in the course of my research about pulleys, i find that it's best not to mess with the crank pulley unless you work in a mechanic shop that can repair it. the aem pulley set is just the alternator and powersteering, i think. there is a UR pulley kit that is without the crank pulley. its safe to use underdrive, its safe to use lightweight, but i wouldn't use a crank pulley since it will affect the cylinders and rods.

I am looking information about Aem tru-power pulley because I am interested in use on my accord 4cyl. do you Feel enough difference using this product?Need opinion and suggestion !!!
 

nyknick1015

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2007
Posts
3,739
Reaction score
3
Location
NYC
yes i am curious too... they say 10-15hp increase but what mod doesnt say that... can some1 answer with sucessful numbers
 

S-spec

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2007
Posts
192
Reaction score
6
Location
Montreal
The OEM crank pully has a rubber dampener in it that helps absorb vibrations and crank flex. Using after market crank pulleys which lack the dampener has been correlated to premature oil pump failure.

I have tried to find hard evidence of this, and it does somewhat make sense, but even then, I suppose its still a gamble!
 

pyaarawala

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 1, 2007
Posts
4,090
Reaction score
3
Location
long island, NY
Exactly. No problems have been blamed solely on a lightened crank pulley.

As a side note, UR has two types of pulley kits available. One is an underdrive kit, while the other has stock diameter pulleys.

What's the point of using a stock diameter pulley?
 

BlkCurrantKord

Super Moderator
Joined
Sep 7, 2005
Posts
10,198
Reaction score
141
Location
Ohio
UR pullies use the stock diameter, just lighter weight.

AEM uses larger diameter pullies.
 

Crono139

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 29, 2005
Posts
823
Reaction score
2
Location
NJ
UR pullies use the stock diameter, just lighter weight.

Correct.


"What are Unorthodox Racing Ultra/Tuner Series pulleys?"

Our pulleys are available in three (3) types:

FIRST - Accessory pulleys (Ultra A) for air pumps, alternators, idlers, power steerings & water pumps. These pulleys are the same diameter as the OEM (original) pulley/s, in most cases, they are replacing but they are much lighter. The accessory pulleys are included in our pulley sets, these sets also include the crank pulley. Even if you buy a crank pulley first the accessory pulleys for most models are available separately. So you are never locked out of the full set and the maximum potential HP gains.

SECOND - Crank pulleys, which are available in three (3) versions. First Version: underdrive crank pulleys in standard belt layout (Ultra S). They drive all the accessories that your came with from the factory. This version is up to 20% smaller in diameter and they are 60-90% lighter than the stock pulleys they replace. This is why we do all of the underdriving at the crank pulley, to maximize the reduction in weight on the crank. Second Version: stock diameter crank pulleys, also in standard belt layout (Ultra Sc & Tuner S), designed to maintain alternator output at stock levels for car owners with big stereos (over 600 watts) or for audio competitions where system voltage must maintain specified levels (see your sanctioning body's rules). For cars with superchargers it maintains the original level of boost from the aftermarket supercharger kit. Third Version: underdrive single belt conversion (Ultra R) that drives only the alternator. It is used for engine swaps or for the racer where only the alternator is being used. The same percentage of underdriving as the Ultra S version but is 90-95% lighter than the OEM pulley it replaces.

THIRD - Pulley sets, which are available in two (2) versions. First Version: is the underdrive sets in standard belt layout (Ultra SS). These sets include the underdrive crank pulley (Ultra S) and the accessory pulleys (Ultra A) for the air pump, alternator, idler, power steering and water pump, depending on your application. There is no additional underdrive with these sets, they are the same amount as with our crank pulleys (Ultra S). The a/c is still driven from the crank pulley in this version so don't think it has to be removed or can't be used. Second Version: stock diameter standrad belt layout sets (Ultra SSc). They include the stock diameter crank pulley and the accessory pulleys (Ultra A) for the air pump, alternator, idler, power steering and water pump pulleys depending on your application. This version is designed to maintain alternator output at stock levels for car owners with big stereos (over 600 watts) or for audio competitions where system voltage must maintain specified levels (see your sanctioning body's rules). For cars with superchargers it maintains the original level of boost from the aftermarket supercharger kit.
 
Back
Top