Coiled down the Tein with problems

[talontsiawd]

lowest i can go w/o noise

That does not seem right at all. What system do you have?

 

[MikeyMike]

That does not seem right at all. What system do you have?

SSP w/ edfc

this is before (H&R springs)

TEIN

 

[talontsiawd]

Just from going on the site real quick, it has two height adjustments, the spring seat and the mount on the bottom of the shock (i don't know what you would call this on our cars, but the tube should be where it would be right? Is this correct for an accord application? Have you adjusted down the lower mount all the way and that is still where you are at? I've only read about adjusting the spring collars, unless i missed something but it's hard to tell from the pics if the shock body is indeed threaded.

 

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thats what i did with the pearch, but for it to contact the spring the car sits SOOOOOOO high up which defeats the whole purpose of a coil over kit


ya im not trying to dump the car, i just would like it back where it sat with the H&R's right now im like 1" or 1.5" higher

im supposed to meet up with comptech today if the weather stays nice.

It sounds like you're trying to adjust ride height w/ the spring perch. All I can speak from is my own experience, but that spring perch gets pre-loaded, and then you leave it there.

Like talontsiawd said, the bottom tube (assuming your shock body is threaded) is where the height adjusting happens.

From Tein's site;

Full Length Adjustable -
Vehicle ride height and spring pre-load can be adjusted independently. Ride height is adjustable in two ways: a. adjustable shock length, and b. adjustable spring seat.
a. The lower mounting bracket can be adjusted, thus changing the overall length of the shock, and therefore altering the vehicle's ride height. This also allows the user to determine suspension travel and droop.
b. The adjustable spring seat allows for independent adjustment of spring pre-load without affecting vehicle ride height

Point 'a' tells me you can drop wherever you choose, w/o changing spring perch.

Good luck, and don't worry. You have a great product that'll work just like you want it to.

 

[talontsiawd]

It sounds like you're trying to adjust ride height w/ the spring perch. All I can speak from is my own experience, but that spring perch gets pre-loaded, and then you leave it there.

Yeah, that's what i have been suspecting all along. I really thought the days of only being able to adjust height by having to change the spring rate was long gone on high end coilovers. I just didn't know what type you had, or what adjustments it had. I just could not for the life of me figure out why the spring wasn't preloaded, but i didn't want to say that you were adjusting them the wrong way without more info. Even with coilovers that don't have a seperate adjustment for height, the spring would be long enough to stay preloaded at a wide range of height.

So, if your shocks are threaded for independent ride height adjustment, and they are not bottomed out right now, that's your problem. I would start by not messing with the shock tube adjustment. Get your spring rate to where you want it. Hopefully you can find someones settings and adjust from there because starting from scratch can be tedious. Then, once you are happy with that, then set your ride height.

If you set the ride height first, then change the spring rate, that will change the ride height and you will have to go back.

Hopefully that's the problem because if not, you may have bigger issues (counterfitting has become a problem with tein to start). I'm still unsure why you would get a noise when you go lower though as at that point, it should be preloaded. But again, it's sort of unclear how they have been adjusted.

 

[Wildman]

So, if your shocks are threaded for independent ride height adjustment.....

they're not. the ss's only have adjustment via spring perches, there isn't any threaded body/tube adjustment.

only (reliable) way I've heard of getting rid of the noise is to wrap the coils in nylon looming. i haven't tried it, but read it somewhere after googling "tein clunking" (and damn if there aren't a lot of results).

only other way to tuck is to get different coilovers with more modern engineering. that's probably the route i'm going to go when its time to get mine rebuilt, as it is now I can go down to a 1-1.5 finger gap in front and like 2 in rear without noise, but can't come close to tucking.

 

[talontsiawd]

I was just reading what i got off the site- http://www.tein.com/products/features.html#RideHeight
That's why i asked if this was true but i'm sure he's working on it right now and didn't respond so i pretty much jumped the gun.


If that is the case, i don't get why the springs are preloaded. Like i said acouple pages back, i haven't ever owned coilovers myself. I have worked on cars with them and the spring shouldn't be able to move freely when it's jacked up, which is what it sounds like is going on. Atleast i've only seen that with really poor quality coilovers. I don't know anyone who owns teins though. So now i'm more confused about this whole deal, if this is, infact correct.

 

[Dinzdale40]

It sounds like you're trying to adjust ride height w/ the spring perch. All I can speak from is my own experience, but that spring perch gets pre-loaded, and then you leave it there.

Like talontsiawd said, the bottom tube (assuming your shock body is threaded) is where the height adjusting happens.

From Tein's site;

Full Length Adjustable -
Vehicle ride height and spring pre-load can be adjusted independently. Ride height is adjustable in two ways: a. adjustable shock length, and b. adjustable spring seat.
a. The lower mounting bracket can be adjusted, thus changing the overall length of the shock, and therefore altering the vehicle's ride height. This also allows the user to determine suspension travel and droop.
b. The adjustable spring seat allows for independent adjustment of spring pre-load without affecting vehicle ride height

Point 'a' tells me you can drop wherever you choose, w/o changing spring perch.

Good luck, and don't worry. You have a great product that'll work just like you want it to.

Tein SS aren't full body adjustable...the Tein Flex are....but they don't make them for accords...

 

[Wildman]

I was just reading what i got off the site- http://www.tein.com/products/features.html#RideHeight
That's why i asked if this was true but i'm sure he's working on it right now and didn't respond so i pretty much jumped the gun.


If that is the case, i don't get why the springs are preloaded. Like i said acouple pages back, i haven't ever owned coilovers myself. I have worked on cars with them and the spring shouldn't be able to move freely when it's jacked up, which is what it sounds like is going on. Atleast i've only seen that with really poor quality coilovers. I don't know anyone who owns teins though. So now i'm more confused about this whole deal, if this is, infact correct.

yeah i know. their site is horrible, it just lists all the features from all the products in that pop-up window so if you don't know any better you would read the description for the flex's assuming it applies to the ss also.

basically, the height adjustable range that tein lists is the most you can lower it without unloading the spring. when you try and drop it more than that, which most people do, the clunking begins lol. its an imperfect design. tein gets points for setting the bar way back, but other companies have learned from companies like tein & improved on them, while tein hasn't updated its older products and just keeps selling the same thing they did 10 years ago. its not a bad product, its just not the best value anymore imo

 

[talontsiawd]

Weird, that's just lazy. I don't get why people think Tein is so quality. It seems like atleast 25% of the posts i read on various forums, people are not happy.