Fellow F series..

[Nemo619]

I say you pick your own poison. I would like to see an all-motor build up on a F23. It trakes more 'BRASS' to build an all-motor, compared to the easy route of boosting. Not to knock those of us who go the route of boosting, or engine swaps. Lets see what the mighty F23 is capable of doing. ****e, Honda made it them with Vtec for a reason. Kudos to Sonnick for looking to an all-motor build.

 

[Quicksilvercord]

Biggest set back for me is the cost of it, and paying for college.

 

[HandoEX]

compared to the easy route of boosting.

Easy? Get a clue.

 

[Nemo619]

Easy? Get a clue.

Easy, meaning an easier way to make horsepower. I know you can't just slap a turbo/supercharger on an engine say your done. You have to build up the bottem end so the engine will be capable of handling the boost pressure taht you'll be running. Not to mention that you need to plumb an I/C and also the exhaust end of things. There is the air:fuel ratio that need to be tunned as well as the timming. Everything has to be tunned properly. I have a better clue than you think. I shy away from kits that are said to run fine on stcok internals. I've seen more boosted F22/23 engines than all-motor builds. I see more swaps done as well. I'm still on the fence about my own engine, so I was applauding someone that is going to try to proceede with an all-motor F23 build.

 

[theaccordian]

in this specifc situation,

cams + cam gear + tune is easier than a full blown turbo build.

Ask retrohark or notorius b on EH how "easy" a turbo build is.

You cited the example where you have to build the bottom end and tune for boost, if you wanna go NA you gotta do the same thing build the bottom end with stronger rods and high comp pistons and tune.

Both routes require planning, know how, and work.

 

[hotaccord243]

i just thought i'd throw my two cents in here, yes the f23 has huge potential, now i know its not necessarily a full-motor build, but its similar.

right now i have a fully custom turbo kit with the precision sc32 turbo and tial BOV and WG, with aem ems and walbro pump, making 250 to the wheel on pump gas with a conservative tune because i blew the last motor.

now to the point, right now im building my motor, with darton replacement sleeves, JE pistons +1/2 size over stock, Crower rods, Ferrea valves, valve springs and retainers, ARP studs, etc. etc. its being assembled here within the next two weeks and should be in the car this month i believe.

the goal is 400 whp, about depending on how hard we wanna push it, i cant really go much higher b/c the turbo maxes out at 480 and i ran outta money so i can't upgrade the turbo anytime soon hahaha


so the f23 can be run safely, and with high numbers, if it is tuned right and done right. it has so much potential!

 

[scrappys64]

^^^ Is that Auto or Man????

 

[hotaccord243]

manual tranny

 

[Sonnick]

It does have a lot of potential, both turbo and NA. I just wanted to let people know actually how much potential this motor has NA, that's all. Turbo it has great potential even with a stock bottom end.

Pics of your setup, hotaccord?

 

[hotaccord243]

yeah i agree, well hopefully i can help a little bit with some numbers after the motor,

heres some pics:

motor with darton ductile iron replacement sleeves and cranks

old picture of engine bay

old dyno before aem ems, and other mods, i have newer dyno but its on a show board so cant scan it, it was 249.6 whp and just shy of that on wtq