Nhsrunner's HID kit

nhsrunner

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How do you like you're McCulloch Kit? I've heard good things about them.
 

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hey nhsrunner....any problems with yours yet? i think im going to get some of those pilots as well. just not sure if i want to go with 6 or 8k from your pics 8 doesnt look like too much blue
 

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No, I haven't had any issues with them. Even living in Wisconsin, where it gets cold as heck, they start up each time right away. The only thing I have noticed about them is that it takes them a little bit longer to "warm-up" (a.k.a. get all the gases inside to light up) than the stock HID lights in my dad's car. Other than that and the color difference, I don't notice much of a difference between them and my dad's. I actually did take a movie of them warming up so maybe sometime if I get a chance I'll post it tonight or in the near future.
 

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i really dont know why ppl say that, i used to have a 8k kit and was very pleased and now running a 10k kit and i am just as pleased even though the 10k was supposed to be another 8k but got the wrong package. it looks nice and can see perfectly without and problems
 

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cg6boi said:
i really dont know why ppl say that, i used to have a 8k kit and was very pleased and now running a 10k kit and i am just as pleased even though the 10k was supposed to be another 8k but got the wrong package. it looks nice and can see perfectly without and problems
Because there is truth to it. The higher you get into blues and violets the less lumens you will output. Which is why factory HID runs at 4200K-4300K it has the most lumens. Right now with 10,000K you're probably at 2.5-2.8 times more output than halogen that's a given, but compared to say anything between 4200K and 6500K you'd be around 3 to 3.2 times more lumens. 10,000K is essentially ascetics. They were manufactured with the intent for an exotic look.
 

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I agree that most people say that 6000K lights are brighter and hence better, but I think that there is more to it than that. First, as shavedaccord said, the higher the color temperature of the bulb (measured in Kelvin), the lower the bulb's output (measured in lumens). While each bulb varies, typically 6000k lights make about 400-600 more lumens than a 8000k bulb. For comparison, a normal 60 watt light bulb produces about 830 lumens. So yeah, 6000k lights do produce more lumens, but the reality is that it's not a whole ton more since its equilvalent to 1/2-3/4 the output of a 60 watt bulb. Second, unless you do a complete retrofit, (which takes quite a bit of spare time, and money, two things that a lot of people, myself included, don't have a lot of), by using the original reflectors, not all of the light is going to be aimed correctly and there will be glare, which tends to blind oncoming drivers. Needless to say, this is a bad thing. This of course is amplified by the brighter the color the light is. Thus, a 6000K kit in the same reflectors, will give off more glare than an 8000K kit for example.

So basically my point is that just because 6000k lights are brighter, they aren't necessarily better.
 

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nhsrunner said:
I agree that most people say that 6000K lights are brighter and hence better, but I think that there is more to it than that. First, as shavedaccord said, the higher the color temperature of the bulb (measured in Kelvin), the lower the bulb's output (measured in lumens). While each bulb varies, typically 6000k lights make about 400-600 more lumens than a 8000k bulb. For comparison, a normal 60 watt light bulb produces about 830 lumens. So yeah, 6000k lights do produce more lumens, but the reality is that it's not a whole ton more since its equilvalent to 1/2-3/4 the output of a 60 watt bulb. Second, unless you do a complete retrofit, (which takes quite a bit of spare time, and money, two things that a lot of people, myself included, don't have a lot of), by using the original reflectors, not all of the light is going to be aimed correctly and there will be glare, which tends to blind oncoming drivers. Needless to say, this is a bad thing. This of course is amplified by the brighter the color the light is. Thus, a 6000K kit in the same reflectors, will give off more glare than an 8000K kit for example.

So basically my point is that just because 6000k lights are brighter, they aren't necessarily better.

1. 400-600 lumens is quite a bit of light.
2. There's a reason OEM's chose 4200K-4300K, it physically lights up the road better. Street signs, road markings, etc.
3. The human eye is much less sensitive to the color blue than that of any other primary color. It's more astetically pleasing to our brain, but ultimatly less useful in road illumination.
4. The glare theory is BS, the difference in glare is marginal at best.

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