Richard's '02 V6 Coupe EX-L

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  1. Sil2DrV6

    Sil2DrV6 Well-Known Member

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    ^ Aloha. I only know the length from the arc of the fender to ground, but it's currently sitting 64cm front & 65cm rear. I forget the factory length of those, but if you know it, you can do the math to figure out the drop in mm. Basically, I have 1 finger gap in the front & 1.25 finger gap in the rear as of now.

    Btw, all of my pics of the car with blacked out headlight housings have 1 finger gap all around; Currently the rear height is slightly taller than the front right now.
     
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    Very useful information, thanks Richard and keep taking care of her.
     
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    What are your front and rear spring rate in kg with your teins ? Can you describe how it ride and compare vs stock ?

    Did you tried any other spring rate setup ?
     
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    Btw any reason you height up the back of the car ? Just for style and having a raked style or more for practical reason (ie rubbing ) ?
     
  5. Sil2DrV6

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    I forgot the rates but Tein's web site should give you the exact #. It's pretty much like stock at the softest setting. It can also be very rough but fun driving around corners at the stiffest setting.

    Wanted to get more ground clearance from my mufflers & avoid the boat-look remedy, that's all.
     
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    Aloha.

    Documenting a possible Jay Thirty Two 6MT LSD heart transplant.

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    Donor Engine: ('03 CL-S 6MT)

    – Motor
    – Six Speed Manual LSD Transmission
    – ECU (PGE-A12)
    – OEM Axles with Half Shaft
    – Shift Cables and Shift Box
    – Alternator
    – Starter
    – Clutch
    – Flywheel
    – Intake Manifold
    – Exhaust Manifold
    – Fuel Rail
    – Injectors
    – Coils
    – Engine Harness
    – All Sensors Needed

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    Maintenance : (CL-S 6MT OEM Parts Replacement)

    – Throttle body gasket
    – Throttle position sensor gasket
    – Cylinder Head Cover Gaskets
    – Valve Cover Gasket
    – Rubber Grommets
    – Intake Manifold Plenum Chamber Gasket
    – Intake Manifold Gaskets
    – Exhausts manifold gaskets
    – Head gaskets
    – EGR Gasket
    – Spark plugs
    – Spark plug wires (leads)
    – Ignition coils
    – Distributor Rotor
    – Exhausts Manifold ----- Aftermarket DC Sports (HHS5528)
    – Drive belt
    – Timing belt
    – Tension pulley
    – Idler pulley
    – Water pump
    – Oil pump
    – Pressure relief valve
    – Oil Filter
    – Main Seal (Front & Rear)
    – Axle Seals
    – Oil Pan Gasket
    – Valve Cover Gasket
    – Thermostat
    – Radiator hoses
    – Alternator
    – Starter
    – Clutch
    – Flywheel
    – Intake Manifold
    – Fuel Rail
    – Injectors
    – Water temperature sensor
    – Fuel Pump

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    Required Add-on : (For '02 Accord V6 to run with no hazards)

    – Engine mounts ----- OEM ’03 CL-S 6MT
    – Transmission mounts --- OEM ’03 CL-S 6MT
    – Intake manifold ----- OEM ‘09 TL SH-AWD J37
    – Thermal throttle body gasket ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by P2R (P141)
    – Thermal throttle body gasket ----- Aftermarket '09 TL SH-AWD J37 by P2R (P149)
    – J35 Top plate ??
    – J35 Intake manifold cover
    – J37/J32 Throttle body adapter ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by P2R (P383)
    – EGR Block off plate??
    – Engine air intake ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by AEM SRI
    – Shift knob
    – Shift boot ----- OEM '02 Accord 5MT
    – MT brake pedal ----- OEM '02 Accord 5MT
    – Clutch pedal ----- OEM '02 Accord 5MT
    – Clutch pedal mounting box ----- OEM '02 Accord 5MT
    – Master cylinder ----- OEM ’03 CL-S 6MT
    – Slave cylinder ----- OEM ’03 CL-S 6MT
    – Dash wire harness with E Plug ----- OEM ’03 CL-S 6MT
    – CL-S 6MT Fuse box??
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    Required modifications:

    – J37 2009 – 2014 TL-S SH-AWD Intake Manifold installation for more hood clearance
    – CL-S 6MT E Plug custom wiring to Accord’s dash wire harness
    – If not the above, a whole CL-S 6MT Dash Wire harness installation
    – Shift Cables and Shift Box installation
    – MT brake pedal, Clutch pedal, and Clutch pedal mounting box installation
    – A car key reprogramming service at a dealership due to the new ECU installation


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    Watch-outs:

    – Some Accords may not have a machined print for the clutch master cylinder in the firewall
    – MT brake pedal installation may possibly be a PITA


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    Notes kept from fellow 6GA members’ wisdoms:

    "Manifold part# 17160-RK2-A00 from Acura
    Manifold cover part # 17116-R70-A00 from Honda
    P2R adapter part# P383B= (Black), P383R= (Red), P383= (Silver)
    P2R gasket part# P141
    P2R gasket part# P149
    That is all the part #'s for the parts that you will need to make the 09 TL awd manifold to work.
    You will need qty of 9 bolts size 8mmx65mm with 1.25 pitch.
    For the manifold gasket i can't find the part number but just call them. They have awesome customer service.”


    “Anyhoo. ... happy to hear that you're going the j37 route. Everything works ok except the imrc ... problem is that the j32a2 IMRC is spring retained ... meaning the j32a2 ECU only sends the open signal ... once the open signal stops being sent by the j32a2 ecu, the j32a2 IM spring closes. The j37 IM IMRC requires both an ON and OFF signal to open and close ... respectively. Thus we left the butterfly valves open all the time and did not wire in the IMRC signal. You might lose a bit of torque low in the RPM ... but you gain a bit in the higher RPM band.”


    “No real issues from running that (J37 IM). Basically just have to block off one port”.

    “You’d have to either put in an entire harness and re wire it to your accord cluster and hvac, or just cut one plug off and re wire into your existing dash harness in your accord now.”

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  7. Sil2DrV6

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    So there's still no edit function?? Or, was it there for a little while? I thought I could edit my recent posts.. Well, I'll be editing my post like this to update then..

    Aloha.

    Updated:07/28/2020

    Documenting a J32A2 + LSD 6MT + CL-S Interior dash swap.

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    Donor Parts Car: ('03 CL-S 6MT @ 143K mi.)

    – Motor + mounts
    – Engine Wire Harness
    – Six Speed Manual LSD Transmission + mounts
    – ECU (PGE-A12)
    – OEM Axles with Half Shaft
    – Shift knob, Shift Cables and Shift Box
    – Brake pedal
    – Clutch pedal
    – Clutch pedal mounting box
    – Master cylinder
    – Slave cylinder
    – Alternator
    – Starter
    – Clutch
    – Flywheel
    – Intake Manifold
    – Exhaust Manifold
    – Fuel Rail
    – Injectors
    – Coils
    – Fuse box
    – Dash Panel + Shifter Console + Steering wheel
    – Dash Panel Wire Harness
    – Rear Seat Trunk Through Unlock
    – Trunk Release Unlock
    – Taillight Trunk Open Unlock
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    Maintenance : (CL-S 6MT OEM Parts Replacement)

    – Throttle body gasket
    – Throttle Body Cleaning
    – Throttle position sensor gasket
    – Cylinder Head Cover Gaskets
    – Valve Cover Gasket
    – Valve Clearance Adjustment
    – Rubber Grommets
    – Intake Manifold Plenum Chamber Gasket
    – Intake Manifold Gaskets
    – Exhausts manifold gaskets
    – Head gaskets
    – EGR Gasket
    – Spark plugs
    – Spark plug wires (leads)
    – Ignition coils
    – Distributor Rotor
    – Drive belt
    – Timing belt
    – Tension pulley
    – Idler pulley
    – Water pump
    – Oil pump
    – Pressure relief valve
    – Oil Filter
    – Main Seal (Front & Rear)
    – Spool Valve Filter Housing
    – Axle Seals
    – Oil Pan Gasket
    – Valve Cover Gasket
    – Thermostat
    – Radiator hoses
    – Alternator
    – Starter
    – Clutch
    – Flywheel
    – Intake Manifold
    – Fuel Rail
    – Injectors
    – Water temperature sensor
    – Fuel Pump

    ______________________________________
    Parts per Modification:

    – Engine air intake ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by AEM SRI
    – Exhausts Manifold ----- Aftermarket DC Sports (HHS5528)
    – Intake manifold & gasket ----- OEM ‘09 TL SH-AWD J37
    – Thermal throttle body gasket ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by P2R (P141)
    – Thermal throttle body gasket ----- Aftermarket '09 TL SH-AWD J37 by P2R (P149)
    – J35 Top plate ??
    – J35 Intake manifold cover
    – J37/J32 Throttle body adapter ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by P2R (P383)
    – EGR Block off plate??
    – Shift Knob ----- OEM ‘03 CL 6MT just b/c I like leather for now, and the old one was nasty :puke:
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    Required modifications:

    – J37 2009 – 2014 TL-S SH-AWD Intake Manifold installation for more hood clearance
    – Shift Cables and Shift Box installation
    – Clutch Master cylinder installation
    – Emergency Side Brake / Parking Brake Relocation
    – Brake pedal, Clutch pedal, and Clutch pedal mounting box installation

    ______________________________________
    Watch-outs:

    – Some Accords may not have a machined print for the clutch master cylinder in the firewall
    – MT brake pedal installation may possibly be a PITA


    ______________________________________
    Notes kept from fellow 6GA members’ wisdoms:

    "Manifold part# 17160-RK2-A00 from Acura
    Manifold cover part # 17116-R70-A00 from Honda
    P2R adapter part# P383B= (Black), P383R= (Red), P383= (Silver)
    P2R gasket part# P141
    P2R gasket part# P149
    That is all the part #'s for the parts that you will need to make the 09 TL awd manifold to work.
    You will need qty of 9 bolts size 8mmx65mm with 1.25 pitch.”


    “Anyhoo. ... happy to hear that you're going the j37 route. Everything works ok except the imrc ... problem is that the j32a2 IMRC is spring retained ... meaning the j32a2 ECU only sends the open signal ... once the open signal stops being sent by the j32a2 ecu, the j32a2 IM spring closes. The j37 IM IMRC requires both an ON and OFF signal to open and close ... respectively. Thus we left the butterfly valves open all the time and did not wire in the IMRC signal. You might lose a bit of torque low in the RPM ... but you gain a bit in the higher RPM band.”


    “No real issues from running that (J37 IM). Basically just have to block off one port”.



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  8. RedRyder

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    I was about to point you to Jakub's (sonni_kuba) post on using the J37 SH-AWD IM, but looks like you already found that data.

    So, you should post your CL-S in the non-6GA rides section since you'll be rocking that for a bit....haha
     
  9. Sil2DrV6

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    Yes, sir. But thanks for your support!

    Lol. It will be just a bone stock CL-S in red, partly banged up.. It probably needs an air freshener or two as far as the mod list can go, till the car gets apart lol.
     
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    Updated:08/03/2020

    Documenting a J32A2 + LSD 6MT + CL-S Interior dash swap.

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    Donor Parts Car's Maintenance Log: ('03 CL-S 6MT @ 143K mi.)

    -- 09/14/2002 5,110 mi General Service
    -- 01/30/2003 9,931 mi Recommended mi service
    -- 05/14/2003 14,963 mi General Service
    -- 08/14/2003 19,156 mi General Service
    -- 12/02/2003 23,560 mi General Service
    -- 12/29/2003 24,686 mi Wheels & Tires checked
    -- 03/08/2004 27,374 mi General Service
    -- 10/20/2006 63,964 mi Braking Service
    -- 06/14/2007 72,773 mi Braking Service
    -- 11/21/2007 79,037 mi Tires checked
    -- 12/01/2008 99,070 mi General Service
    + Exterior lights checked Light bulb(s) replaced​
    -- 04/09/2009 99,617 mi Maintenance inspection completed
    + Exterior lights checked​
    -- 02/01/2010 107,884 mi Engine/powertrain computer/module replaced
    -- 03/04/2010 108,279 mi Tires balanced rotated & aligned
    + Front brake rotor(s) resurfaced
    + Water pump & Timing belt replaced

    -- 12/08/2010 113,690 mi Maintenance inspection completed
    + Brakes checked
    + Tires checked
    + Electrical system checked​
    -- 02/07/2011 114,303 mi General Service
    -- 11/29/2011 118,426 mi General Service
    -- 03/15/2012 ???,??? mi General Service
    -- 06/16/2012 120,849 mi General Service
    + Battery & light bulbs replaced​
    -- 05/24/2013 125,872 mi General Service
    -- 06/07/2013 ???,??? mi General Service
    -- 03/07/2014 128,641 mi General Service
    -- 01/21/2015 ???,??? mi Brake system bled
    + Rear brake calipers replaced
    -- 06/23/2015 133,467 mi General Service
    + Front and Rear Brake Pads
    + Calipers & fluid replaced
    + Rear rotors replaced
    -- 07/09/2015 133,534 mi General Service
    -- 12/12/2015 135,520 mi General Service
    + Heater control valve replaced
    + Cooling, A/C and heating system serviced
    + Coolant flushed/changed
    -- 09/19/2018 143,359 mi Recommended mi Service
    + Drivability/performance checked​
    -- 03/07/2019 Takata Driver Airbag Safety Recall
    -- 07/27/2020 143,460 mi Fuel Pump Relay replaced




    Parts need to be removed:
    – Motor + mounts
    – Engine Wire Harness
    – Six Speed Manual LSD Transmission + mounts
    – ECU (PGE-A12)
    – OEM Axles with Half Shaft
    – Shift knob, Shift Cables and Shift Box
    – Brake pedal
    – Clutch pedal
    – Clutch pedal mounting box
    – Master cylinder
    – Slave cylinder
    – Alternator
    – Starter
    – Clutch
    – Flywheel
    – Intake Manifold
    – Exhaust Manifold
    – Fuse box
    – Dash Panel + Shifter Console + Steering wheel
    – Dash Panel Wire Harness
    – Trunk Release Unlock
    – Taillight Trunk Open Unlock



    Maintenance : (CL-S 6MT OEM Parts Replacement)
    – Motor and transmission mounts
    – Throttle body gasket
    – Throttle Body Cleaning
    – Throttle position sensor gasket
    – Cylinder Head Cover Gaskets
    – Valve Cover Gasket
    – Valve Clearance Adjustment
    – Rubber Grommets
    – Intake Manifold Plenum Chamber Gasket
    – Intake Manifold Gaskets
    – Exhausts manifold gaskets
    – Head gaskets
    – EGR Gasket
    – Spark plugs
    – Spark plug wires (leads)
    – Ignition coils
    – Distributor Rotor
    – Drive belt
    – Timing belt
    – Tension pulley
    – Idler pulley
    – Water pump
    – Oil pump
    – Pressure relief valve
    – Oil Filter
    – Main Seal (Front & Rear)
    – Spool Valve Filter Housing
    – Axle Seals
    – Oil Pan Gasket
    – Valve Cover Gasket
    – Thermostat
    – Radiator hoses
    – Alternator
    – Starter
    – Clutch
    – Flywheel
    – Intake Manifold
    – Fuel Rail
    – Injectors
    – Water temperature sensor
    – Fuel Pump



    Parts per Modification:
    – Engine air intake ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by AEM SRI
    – Exhausts Manifold ----- Aftermarket DC Sports (HHS5528)
    – Intake manifold & gasket ----- OEM ‘09 TL SH-AWD J37
    – Thermal throttle body gasket ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by P2R (P141)
    – Thermal throttle body gasket ----- Aftermarket '09 TL SH-AWD J37 by P2R (P149)
    – J35 Top plate ??
    – J35 Intake manifold cover
    – J37/J32 Throttle body adapter ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by P2R (P383)
    – EGR Block off plate??
    – Shift Knob ----- OEM ‘03 CL 6MT





    Required modifications:
    – J37 2009 – 2014 TL-S SH-AWD Intake Manifold installation for more hood clearance
    – Shift Cables and Shift Box installation
    – Clutch Master cylinder installation
    – Emergency Side Brake / Parking Brake Relocation
    – Brake pedal, Clutch pedal, and Clutch pedal mounting box installation


    Watch-outs:
    – Some Accords may not have a machined print for the clutch master cylinder in the firewall
    – MT brake pedal installation may possibly be a PITA



    Notes kept from fellow 6GA members’ wisdoms:
    J37IM Swap:

    "Manifold part# 17160-RK2-A00 from Acura
    Manifold cover part # 17116-R70-A00 from Honda
    P2R adapter part# P383B= (Black), P383R= (Red), P383= (Silver)
    P2R gasket part# P141
    P2R gasket part# P149
    That is all the part #'s for the parts that you will need to make the 09 TL awd manifold to work.
    You will need qty of 9 bolts size 8mmx65mm with 1.25 pitch.”

    “Anyhoo. ... happy to hear that you're going the j37 route. Everything works ok except the imrc ... problem is that the j32a2 IMRC is spring retained ... meaning the j32a2 ECU only sends the open signal ... once the open signal stops being sent by the j32a2 ecu, the j32a2 IM spring closes. The j37 IM IMRC requires both an ON and OFF signal to open and close ... respectively. Thus we left the butterfly valves open all the time and did not wire in the IMRC signal. You might lose a bit of torque low in the RPM ... but you gain a bit in the higher RPM band.”

    “No real issues from running that (J37 IM). Basically just have to block off one port”.

    Parking Brake relocation:
    "Ebrake is a little tricky. There's already spots marked where you have to drill holes on your car but there's no nut welded on the bottom so you'll either have to use a tap to create 2 or 3 threads in the sheet metal or use a rivnut to add threads"



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