Richard's '02 V6 Coupe EX-L

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  1. Sil2DrV6

    Sil2DrV6 Well-Known Member

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    Documenting a J32A2 + LSD 6MT + Interior dash swap from a CL-S


    The CL-S has arrived! Detailed the hell out of the interior, and the car actually threw me some CEL codes, when I started to drive. They were all misfiring related btw. Took the car to the shop for a check up, + an oil change. Had the spark plugs replaced, and took for a spin to test drive. Was fun driving the MT for a while, but it still gave me the same codes in the end lol! Gave a search up here, and found out that someone was experiencing the same issue (CELs):
    https://www.6thgenaccord.com/forums/threads/p0301-p0302-p0304-p0305-p0306-p0300-p1399.52673/

    My mechanic told me that everything seems to be corroded on the outside of the engine / chassis components, but it's working fine over all, except for the PS rack and oil pressure switch has been leaking a little bit + front right wheel bearing being slightly wobbly. I shouldn't be worried about those, since those aren't related to the engine swap. Three wheel studs broke off during the tire rotation, but they're replaced. Hopefully no more misfiring after this.

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    Maintenance Log: (CL-S until present)
    -- 09/14/2002 5,110 mi General Service
    -- 01/30/2003 9,931 mi Recommended mi service
    -- 05/14/2003 14,963 mi General Service
    -- 08/14/2003 19,156 mi General Service
    -- 12/02/2003 23,560 mi General Service
    -- 12/29/2003 24,686 mi Wheels & Tires checked
    -- 03/08/2004 27,374 mi General Service
    -- 10/20/2006 63,964 mi Braking Service
    -- 06/14/2007 72,773 mi Braking Service
    -- 11/21/2007 79,037 mi Tires checked
    -- 12/01/2008 99,070 mi General Service
    -- 12/01/2008 99,070 mi Exterior lights checked Light bulbs replaced
    -- 04/09/2009 99,617 mi Maintenance inspection completed
    -- 04/09/2009 99,617 mi Exterior lights checked
    -- 02/01/2010 107,884 mi Engine/powertrain computer/module replaced
    -- 03/04/2010 108,279 mi Tires balanced rotated & aligned
    -- 03/04/2010 108,279 mi Front brake rotor(s) resurfaced
    -- 03/04/2010 108,279 mi Water pump & Timing belt replaced
    -- 12/08/2010 113,690 mi Maintenance inspection completed
    -- 12/08/2010 113,690 mi Brakes checked
    -- 12/08/2010 113,690 mi Tires checked
    -- 12/08/2010 113,690 mi Electrical system checked
    -- 02/07/2011 114,303 mi General Service
    -- 11/29/2011 118,426 mi General Service
    -- 03/15/2012 ???,??? mi General Service
    -- 06/16/2012 120,849 mi General Service
    -- 06/16/2012 120,849 mi Battery & light bulbs replaced
    -- 05/24/2013 125,872 mi General Service
    -- 06/07/2013 ???,??? mi General Service
    -- 03/07/2014 128,641 mi General Service
    -- 01/21/2015 ???,??? mi Brake system bled
    -- 01/21/2015 ???,??? mi Rear brake calipers replaced
    -- 06/23/2015 133,467 mi General Service
    -- 06/23/2015 133,467 mi Front and Rear Brake Pads
    -- 06/23/2015 133,467 mi Calipers & fluid replaced
    -- 06/23/2015 133,467 mi Rear rotors replaced
    -- 07/09/2015 133,534 mi General Service
    -- 12/12/2015 135,520 mi General Service
    -- 12/12/2015 135,520 mi Heater control valve replaced
    -- 12/12/2015 135,520 mi Cooling, A/C and heating system serviced
    -- 12/12/2015 135,520 mi Coolant flushed/changed
    -- 09/19/2018 143,359 mi Recommended mi Service
    -- 09/19/2018 143,359 mi Drivability/performance checked
    -- 03/07/2019 Takata Driver Airbag Safety Recall
    -- 07/27/2020 143,460 mi Fuel Pump Relay replaced
    -- 08/26/2020 143,481 mi Spark Plugs & Wheel studs replaced



    Maintenance List: (CL-S as of 143K mi.)
    – Motor and transmission mounts
    – Throttle body gasket
    – Throttle Body Cleaning
    – Throttle position sensor gasket
    – Cylinder Head Cover Gaskets
    – Valve Cover Gasket
    – Valve Clearance Adjustment
    – Rubber Grommets
    – Intake Manifold Plenum Chamber Gasket
    – Intake Manifold Gaskets
    – Exhausts manifold gaskets
    – Head gaskets
    – EGR Gasket
    – Spark plugs ----- Done!
    – Spark plug wires (leads)
    – Ignition coils
    – Distributor Rotor
    – Drive belt
    – Timing belt ----- Done! @ 108K mi
    – Tension pulley
    – Idler pulley
    – Water pump ----- Done! @ 108K mi
    – Oil pump
    – Pressure relief valve
    – Oil Filter
    – Main Seal (Front & Rear)
    – Spool Valve Filter Housing
    – Axle Seals
    – Oil Pan Gasket
    – Valve Cover Gasket
    – Thermostat
    – Radiator hoses
    – Alternator
    – Starter
    – Clutch
    – Flywheel
    – Intake Manifold
    – Fuel Rail
    – Injectors
    – Water temperature sensor
    – Fuel Pump



    Parts need to be removed:
    – Motor + mounts
    – Engine Wire Harness
    – Six Speed Manual LSD Transmission + mounts
    – ECU (PGE-A12)
    – OEM Axles with Half Shaft
    – Shift knob, Shift Cables and Shift Box
    – Brake pedal
    – Clutch pedal
    – Clutch pedal mounting box
    – Master cylinder
    – Slave cylinder
    – Alternator
    – Starter
    – Clutch
    – Flywheel
    – Intake Manifold
    – Exhaust Manifold
    – Fuse box
    – Dash Panel + Shifter Console + Steering wheel
    – Dash Panel Wire Harness
    – Taillight Trunk Open Unlock



    Parts per Modification:
    – Engine air intake ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by AEM SRI
    – Exhausts Manifold ----- Aftermarket DC Sports (HHS5528)
    – Intake manifold & gasket ----- OEM ‘09 TL SH-AWD J37
    – Thermal throttle body gasket ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by P2R (P141)
    – Thermal throttle body gasket ----- Aftermarket '09 TL SH-AWD J37 by P2R (P149)
    – J35 Top plate ??
    – J35 Intake manifold cover
    – J37/J32 Throttle body adapter ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by P2R (P383)
    – EGR Block off plate??
    – Shift Knob ----- OEM ‘03 CL 6MT



    Required modifications:
    – J37 2009 – 2014 TL-S SH-AWD Intake Manifold installation for more hood clearance
    – Shift Cables and Shift Box installation
    – Clutch Master cylinder installation
    – Emergency Side Brake / Parking Brake Relocation
    – Brake pedal, Clutch pedal, and Clutch pedal mounting box installation



    Watch-outs:
    – Some Accords may not have a machined print for the clutch master cylinder in the firewall
    – MT brake pedal installation may possibly be a PITA



    Notes kept from fellow 6GA members’ wisdoms:
    J37IM Swap:

    "Manifold part# 17160-RK2-A00 from Acura
    Manifold cover part # 17116-R70-A00 from Honda
    P2R adapter part# P383B= (Black), P383R= (Red), P383= (Silver)
    P2R gasket part# P141
    P2R gasket part# P149
    That is all the part #'s for the parts that you will need to make the 09 TL awd manifold to work.
    You will need qty of 9 bolts size 8mmx65mm with 1.25 pitch.”

    “Anyhoo. ... happy to hear that you're going the j37 route. Everything works ok except the imrc ... problem is that the j32a2 IMRC is spring retained ... meaning the j32a2 ECU only sends the open signal ... once the open signal stops being sent by the j32a2 ecu, the j32a2 IM spring closes. The j37 IM IMRC requires both an ON and OFF signal to open and close ... respectively. Thus we left the butterfly valves open all the time and did not wire in the IMRC signal. You might lose a bit of torque low in the RPM ... but you gain a bit in the higher RPM band.”

    “No real issues from running that (J37 IM). Basically just have to block off one port”.

    Parking Brake relocation:
    "Ebrake is a little tricky. There's already spots marked where you have to drill holes on your car but there's no nut welded on the bottom so you'll either have to use a tap to create 2 or 3 threads in the sheet metal or use a rivnut to add threads"



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  2. Sil2DrV6

    Sil2DrV6 Well-Known Member

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    Documenting a J32A2 + LSD 6MT + Interior dash swap from a CL-S

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    Maintenance Log: (CL-S until present)
    -- 09/14/2002 5,110 mi General Service
    -- 01/30/2003 9,931 mi Recommended mi service
    -- 05/14/2003 14,963 mi General Service
    -- 08/14/2003 19,156 mi General Service
    -- 12/02/2003 23,560 mi General Service
    -- 12/29/2003 24,686 mi Wheels & Tires checked
    -- 03/08/2004 27,374 mi General Service
    -- 10/20/2006 63,964 mi Braking Service
    -- 06/14/2007 72,773 mi Braking Service
    -- 11/21/2007 79,037 mi Tires checked
    -- 12/01/2008 99,070 mi General Service
    -- 12/01/2008 99,070 mi Exterior lights checked Light bulbs replaced
    -- 04/09/2009 99,617 mi Maintenance inspection completed
    -- 04/09/2009 99,617 mi Exterior lights checked
    -- 02/01/2010 107,884 mi Engine/powertrain computer/module replaced
    -- 03/04/2010 108,279 mi Tires balanced rotated & aligned
    -- 03/04/2010 108,279 mi Front brake rotor(s) resurfaced
    -- 03/04/2010 108,279 mi Water pump & Timing belt replaced
    -- 12/08/2010 113,690 mi Maintenance inspection completed
    -- 12/08/2010 113,690 mi Brakes checked
    -- 12/08/2010 113,690 mi Tires checked
    -- 12/08/2010 113,690 mi Electrical system checked
    -- 02/07/2011 114,303 mi General Service
    -- 11/29/2011 118,426 mi General Service
    -- 03/15/2012 ???,??? mi General Service
    -- 06/16/2012 120,849 mi General Service
    -- 06/16/2012 120,849 mi Battery & light bulbs replaced
    -- 05/24/2013 125,872 mi General Service
    -- 06/07/2013 ???,??? mi General Service
    -- 03/07/2014 128,641 mi General Service
    -- 01/21/2015 ???,??? mi Brake system bled
    -- 01/21/2015 ???,??? mi Rear brake calipers replaced
    -- 06/23/2015 133,467 mi General Service
    -- 06/23/2015 133,467 mi Front and Rear Brake Pads
    -- 06/23/2015 133,467 mi Calipers & fluid replaced
    -- 06/23/2015 133,467 mi Rear rotors replaced
    -- 07/09/2015 133,534 mi General Service
    -- 12/12/2015 135,520 mi General Service
    -- 12/12/2015 135,520 mi Heater control valve replaced
    -- 12/12/2015 135,520 mi Cooling, A/C and heating system serviced
    -- 12/12/2015 135,520 mi Coolant flushed/changed
    -- 09/19/2018 143,359 mi Recommended mi Service
    -- 09/19/2018 143,359 mi Drivability/performance checked
    -- 03/07/2019 Takata Driver Airbag Safety Recall
    -- 07/27/2020 143,460 mi Fuel Pump Relay replaced
    -- 08/26/2020 143,481 mi Spark Plugs & Wheel studs replaced



    Maintenance List: (CL-S as of 143K mi.)
    – Motor and transmission mounts
    – Throttle body gasket
    – Throttle Body Cleaning
    – Throttle position sensor gasket
    – Cylinder Head Covers ----- (From the Accord)
    – Cylinder Head Cover Gasket Sets 12030-P8A-A00
    – Valve Cover Gasket
    – Valve Clearance Adjustment
    – Rubber Grommets
    – Intake Manifold Plenum Chamber Gasket
    – Intake Manifold Gaskets
    – Exhausts manifold gaskets
    – Head gaskets
    – EGR Valve & Gasket ----- Done!
    – Spark plugs ----- Done!
    – Spark plug wires (leads)
    – Ignition coils ----- Done!
    – Distributor Rotor
    – Drive belt
    – Timing belt ----- Done! @ 108K mi
    – Tension pulley
    – Idler pulley
    – Water pump ----- Done! @ 108K mi
    – Oil pump
    – Pressure relief valve
    – Main Seal (Front & Rear)
    – Spool Valve Filter Housing ----- (From the Accord)
    – Axle Seals
    – Oil Pan Gasket
    – Thermostat ----- (From the Accord)
    – Radiator hoses Upper ----- (From the Accord)
    – Radiator hoses Lower
    – Alternator
    – Starter
    – Clutch
    – Flywheel
    – Intake Manifold
    – Fuel Rail
    – Injectors
    – Water temperature sensor
    – Fuel Pump



    Parts need to be removed:
    – Motor + mounts
    – Engine Wire Harness
    – Six Speed Manual LSD Transmission + mounts
    – ECU (PGE-A12)
    – OEM Axles with Half Shaft
    – Shift knob, Shift Cables and Shift Box
    – Brake pedal
    – Clutch pedal
    – Clutch pedal mounting box
    – Master cylinder
    – Slave cylinder
    – Alternator
    – Starter
    – Clutch
    – Flywheel
    – Intake Manifold
    – Exhaust Manifold
    – Fuse box
    – Dash Panel + Shifter Console + Steering wheel
    – Dash Panel Wire Harness
    – Taillight Trunk Opener



    Parts per Modification:
    – Engine air intake ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by AEM SRI
    – Exhausts Manifold ----- Aftermarket DC Sports (HHS5528)
    – Intake manifold & gasket ----- OEM ‘09 TL SH-AWD J37
    – Thermal throttle body gasket ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by P2R (P141)
    – Thermal throttle body gasket ----- Aftermarket '09 TL SH-AWD J37 by P2R (P149)
    – J35 Top plate ??
    – J35 Intake manifold cover
    – J37/J32 Throttle body adapter ----- Aftermarket '03 CL-S 6MT by P2R (P383)
    – EGR Block off plate??
    – Shift Knob ----- OEM ‘03 CL 6MT



    Required modifications:
    – J37 2009 – 2014 TL-S SH-AWD Intake Manifold installation for more hood clearance
    – Shift Cables and Shift Box installation
    – Clutch Master cylinder installation
    – Emergency Side Brake / Parking Brake Relocation
    – Brake pedal, Clutch pedal, and Clutch pedal mounting box installation



    Watch-outs:
    – Some Accords may not have a machined print for the clutch master cylinder in the firewall
    – MT brake pedal installation may possibly be a PITA



    Notes kept from fellow 6GA members’ wisdoms:
    J37IM Swap:

    "Manifold part# 17160-RK2-A00 from Acura
    Manifold cover part # 17116-R70-A00 from Honda
    P2R adapter part# P383B= (Black), P383R= (Red), P383= (Silver)
    P2R gasket part# P141
    P2R gasket part# P149
    That is all the part #'s for the parts that you will need to make the 09 TL awd manifold to work.
    You will need qty of 9 bolts size 8mmx65mm with 1.25 pitch.”

    “Anyhoo. ... happy to hear that you're going the j37 route. Everything works ok except the imrc ... problem is that the j32a2 IMRC is spring retained ... meaning the j32a2 ECU only sends the open signal ... once the open signal stops being sent by the j32a2 ecu, the j32a2 IM spring closes. The j37 IM IMRC requires both an ON and OFF signal to open and close ... respectively. Thus we left the butterfly valves open all the time and did not wire in the IMRC signal. You might lose a bit of torque low in the RPM ... but you gain a bit in the higher RPM band.”

    “No real issues from running that (J37 IM). Basically just have to block off one port”.

    Parking Brake relocation:
    "Ebrake is a little tricky. There's already spots marked where you have to drill holes on your car but there's no nut welded on the bottom so you'll either have to use a tap to create 2 or 3 threads in the sheet metal or use a rivnut to add threads"



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    Last edited: Sep 24, 2020 at 3:00 AM

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