Transmission Parts

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  1. BlkCurrantKord

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    the only that actually has anything to do with F23 specificallly is the two middle... other two are H22...Under Accords...
     
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    Ah buuut...you can swap for the H22 tranny. Who knows, might be able to swap the gears out of the F23.
     
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    All H-series and F-series trans are completely interchangeable. Any manufacturer that lists a transmission/clutch/flywheel part for the 90-97 accord is just ignorant of that fact. Its more like 90-02 Accord and 93-whenever they stopped making preludes (02?), excluding the SH. Well I know because I'm rocking the M2S4 trans on my car right now with no custom mounts, fab work, or anything. I wouldn't even be worried about the KAAZ that lists 90-97 SIR, that's just the vehicle they had in mind, but they don't reseach all the crossover.

    Once I am putting some power to the wheels, I will definitely be looking into that AMC Helical LSD. I would want to know that its not the same unit as the OBX before I spend the extra $200. I doubt it is though. Cool to find there are less expensive options besides Quaife, which I believe is $1100+. I remember a while ago they had a unit for the 90-97. You know what happened was the engine changed to F23 and all the companies assumed there was a change to the bell-housing or clutch size and didn't bother to investigate.
     
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    ^^^^^^^
    This could be wrong. I know it's true for the flwyheels and clutches being all interchangeable, but I don't know if that holds true for an LSD.

    Does the LSD mate with the final drive gear? So any that are made for the H22 are compatible with the 4.266 FD?

    If that were the case one would expect the 90-97 to work with the F23 trans bc I believe they have the same 4.066 FD. Something close to that don't feel like looking it up right now.

    I'm trying to think what would make it not fit, and why Quaife and now OBX have them both listed as 90-97.

    That would be good for me because my H23 trans has the same FD and I could use one of those.
     
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    Well quaife lists the F22, H23, and H22 trans as using the same part on their site.

    Accord 1990-97, Prelude 1992-96, Prelude 1997-00 except SH 60.309.170

    Gear Ratios - Copied from Prelude FAQ on Honda-Tech

    Also posted here - http://www.6thgenaccord.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4445&highlight=gear+ratios

    Tranny Code + It's Origin

    M2A4 - JDM 4G
    M2B4 - JDM 4G LSD
    M2F4 - USDM 4G
    M2U4 - JDM 5G Type-S ATTS/USDM Type-SH ATTS
    M2Y4 - JDM/USDM 5G Base
    M2Z4 - JDM 5G SiR S-Spec/JDM 5G w/ LSD option
    T2T4 - JDM Accord SiR-T (F20B) LSD
    T2W4 - JDM Accord Euro-R LSD
    U2Q7 - EDM Accord Type-R LSD
    M2T4 - BB6 H22A SiR LSD

    M2L5 92-96 Prelude S (F22A1)
    M2S4 92-96 Prelude Si (H23A1)
    M2J5 92-96 Prelude Si (JDM F22B)
    P2A5 94-97 Accord DX/LX
    P2U5 94-97 Accord EX
    P2A4 94-97 Accord Lx/EX Wagon

    M2J4 - EuDM 2.0i (F20A4)
    M2K4 - EuDM 2.3i 4ws (H23A2)
    M2F5 - EuDM 2.2i VTEC (H22A2)
    M2X5 - EuDM 5g Vti-S (H22A5)
    M2V5 - EuDM 5g Vti 4WS (H22A5)
    M2P4 - EuDM 5g Vti-S 4WS
    M2R4 - Vti-S 1999<-updated?
    M2C4 - 4th gen BA8 (F22A2)

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    Tranny Code + Gear Ratios
    M2A4 - 3.307 - 1.950 - 1.360 - 1.034 - 0.787 - 4.266
    M2B4 - 3.307 - 1.950 - 1.360 - 1.034 - 0.787 - 4.266 LSD
    M2F4 - 3.307 - 1.950 - 1.360 - 1.071 - 0.870 - 4.266
    M2U4 - 3.285 - 1.956 - 1.344 - 1.034 - 0.812 - 4.266 ATTS
    M2Y4 - 3.285 - 1.956 - 1.344 - 1.034 - 0.812 - 4.266
    M2Z4 - 3.285 - 1.956 - 1.344 - 1.034 - 0.812 - 4.266 LSD
    T2T4 - 3.285 - 1.956 - 1.344 - 1.034 - 0.812 - 4.266 LSD
    T2W4 - 3.285 - 2.090 - 1.481 - 1.071 - 0.812 - 4.266 LSD
    U2Q7 - 3.285 - 2.090 - 1.481 - 1.071 - 0.870 - 4.266 LSD
    M2T4 -

    M2L5 - 3.307 - 1.810 - 1.230 - 0.903 - 0.705 - 4.062
    M2S4 - 3.307 - 1.857 - 1.320 - 1.034 - 0.812 - 4.266
    M2J5 - 3.307 - 1.810 - 1.269 - 0.966 - 0.787 - 4.062
    P2A5 - 3.307 - 1.809 - 1.185 - 0.903 - 0.685 - 4.062
    P2U5 - 3.307 - 1.809 - 1.185 - 0.933 - 0.685 - 4.062
    P2A4 - 3.307 - 1.809 - 1.185 - 0.903 - 0.685 - 4.062
    M2J4 - 3.285 - 1.807 - 1.266 - 0.966 - 0.787 - 4.266
    M2K4 - 3.307 - 1.809 - 1.269 - 0.966 - 0.757 - 4.266
    M2F5 - 3.307 - 1.950 - 1.360 - 1.071 - 0.870 - 4.062
    M2X5 -
    M2V5 - 3.285 - 1.950 - 1.344 - 1.071 - 0.870 - 4.062
    M2P4 - 3.285 - 2.090 - 1.481 - 1.071 - 0.870 - 4.266
    M2R4 -
    M2C4 - 3.307 - 1.809 - 1.230 - 0.933 - 0.757 - 4.266


    I have a stock F23 trans in my garage I guess I could see if it still has a trans code left on it somewhere.


    Compare those for the 5th to what Blacknight posted as the F23's stock ratios;

    Transmission gear ratio (1st) 3.29
    Transmission gear ratio (2nd) 1.81
    Transmission gear ratio (3rd) 1.19
    Transmission gear ratio (4th) .90
    Transmission gear ratio (5th) .69
    Transmission gear ratio (reverse) 3.00
     
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    not to be rude or anything, but why is this stickied under suspension, wheels, and tires?
     
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    yeah.... this mod thinks he can create threads anywhere he wants

    i will fix this myself
     
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    So any of these lsd's for the 90_97 f22 accord would fit a 02 p2a8 tranny
     
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    As long as it's a 5spd...yeeuuuppp
     

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