6 gears > 4 [6spd + 3.2 swap]...completed.

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Re: 6 gears > 4 [6spd + 3.2 swap]

Well now......another successful heart transplant.

Congrats Sir!

Looks good.

My question is, did you raise the car up, or did you have the engine/oil pan sit a bit higher so you have the option to keep a bit more of an aggressive drop?
 

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Re: 6 gears > 4 [6spd + 3.2 swap]

And likewise. I always make these assumptions about what people are like in-person, based on their posts, and I like meeting them and either breaking that assumption or just getting a better impression of who they really are, outside the boards.

Have you had a chance to really let her out? I know aside from the obvious, is she faster/more responsive, etc? I imagine you're still in that placebo effect so it'll probably be a few weeks before you really feel the difference, lol.

Yeah it's always interesting to put a face to a username, and see a car in person. I try not to judge people, but it's inherent in human nature to do so, lol.

Rich gave it the beans a few times while I was there...thing is a screamer. It feels so much more powerful now due to the 6spd, the numbers that went with the J30 didn't really apply because the auto robbed so much power. So what the J30 would have had (200hp/195lb ft) and a lot more has suddenly been released...and the effect is pretty ridiculous. The motor redlines at 7k rpm, VTEC "kicks in" at 4200 rpm (which I haven't even done yet), and there is so much pull I have to let the clutch out pretty slowly just so I don't chirp the tires or jerk the car (but this is also due to me not being great at driving it yet, lol).

But to answer your question, much much faster, and tons more responsive. The numbers come so much faster. Getting on an on-ramp to the freeway is quite a lot of fun, even as conservatively as I'm driving now.



Nice! Congrats :)

Thanks buddy, I appreciate the guidance and advice. Wish I could see your car.

Very clean swap, Congrats to you my friend!

Thank you very much. I will take some photos of the various parts that were added, just to give you guys an idea of how clean this was done. Rich did an absolutly AMAZING job with making everything look OEM. Like the clutch fluid reservoir...just looks like it belongs where it is. Nothing was ghetto rigged, all proper hardware, bushings, gaskets, etc were used. Which is thanks to the tools, fab skills, and attention to detail Rich possesses.

Hey just curious, how did you put the badge on your steering wheel. Did you use tape or something else?

It came with adhesive on the back.

That shift knob looks amazing. You should cut your shifter a little and make new threads and it would look a lot better. Up to you though.

Oh and I wonder how hard would it be to put in CL-S instrument panel?

I typically like the look of shorter shifters too. I am going to let myself get use to driving it before doing anything like that though. Maybe down the road. :)

Not sure, I haven't looked a 2G CL/TL gauge pod in awhile. I know there would be two issues though, 1) fitment, and 2) wiring. The latter of which would be a nightmare for someone like me. lol If I do anything, I would get the heated seats/switches and wire them up.

congrats...
really look amazing specially the shift knob

Thanks, I loooove the shift knob. The motor needs some cosmetic work to make it look pretty, but honestly right now I am just recovering from all the work this took, lol. I'll touch it eventually.

Nice to see it in dude after all this. lol
You said you used the 7th gen accord tranny right?
It's compatible with the j32a2?

Yeah, the 7G AV6, 3G TL, and 2G CL-S trannies are compatible with the J32.

Congrats! This is how the car should have came from the factory :)

Couldn't agree more man. Honda gave this car great exterior and interior styling...but when it came to giving it passion under the hood...nothing. If they had released it as such, I guarantee these cars would be so much more desirable and highly sought after by enthusiasts. Even if Honda just gave the J30 a 6MT, it would have been tons better. Can't believe it took them until 2003 to give their V6's a manual...

nice clean work, congrats.

any plans on removing that ex emblem on your glove compartment lid? :lawl:

Thanks, even with a slightly bigger motor, seems like there is more room under the hood now.

Hmm...maybe. I like it for now. No one else does though, lol.
 

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Re: 6 gears > 4 [6spd + 3.2 swap]

Ahh I see. Well yeah I didn't know if the CL instrument panel would fit. Only if you change the whole dashboard? lol but that's what a lot of work.

Oh, you want CL-S seats? Those would be nice :)
 

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Re: 6 gears > 4 [6spd + 3.2 swap]

Well now......another successful heart transplant.

Congrats Sir! Looks good.

My question is, did you raise the car up, or did you have the engine/oil pan sit a bit higher so you have the option to keep a bit more of an aggressive drop?

Thanks Derek. With the 3.2 being a taller motor, what we ended up doing was dropping the subframe and adding .6" spacers. This gave us proper hood clearance for the IM.

Ahh I see. Well yeah I didn't know if the CL instrument panel would fit. Only if you change the whole dashboard? lol but that's what a lot of work.

Oh, you want CL-S seats? Those would be nice :)

I don't know if it does either, my guess is that it may be a slightly different shape. I've heard people talking about changing out the whole dash, not sure if I want to take that on though, lol. In fact I feel like right now I am exhausted at the thought of doing anything to it, haha. Rich and I were working 12-14 hour days every day, turning countless nuts, bolts, etc. I'm gonna take it easy for a while. :lawl:

I don't know if CL-S seats are a direct swap for sure, but yeah...I want heated seats. I'll have to think about that one.
 

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Re: 6 gears > 4 [6spd + 3.2 swap]

any plans on removing that ex emblem on your glove compartment lid? :lawl:
You have to see it in person to appreciate it, lol. I didnt like it at first either but it grows on ya.
 

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There were bunches of these in central/s. central IL, too. They werent as close to the highway and all I had was my cell so my pics didnt turn out so well, lol.
 

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damn just read up on the whole thread. Fell in love with your car all over again man. Truly inspiring. Do want!
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Re: 6 gears > 4 [6spd + 3.2 swap]

I'm dying to know how you guys lowered the subframe. After looking at some subframe pics, it looks like the whole thing is just held to the car with four bolts, one in each corner...? Is it just as simple as using a spacer and a longer bolt?

That sounds WAY better than cutting pieces out of my hood and/or cutting and re-welding the motor mounts. And on that note, I wonder if there's any chance in hell that Innovative (since it sounds like they build-to-order anyway) would consider just custom building my mounts to sit a little lower than they're supposed to? Hmm...

Also did that CL-S shifter trim bezel just snap right in?


It's only at idle, and going into first. Basically the steering wheel and whole front dash vibrates, and you can feel it through the seat as well. It isn't bad enough to make my hands tingle. It gets worse when you have the A/C on. Some people don't care about that kind of stuff, but this car is my dd and I drive people (work, family, etc) sometimes and I don't want it to be as noticeable as it is now.

The reason I don't like it is that my car is over 10 years old. So now all the other little rattles it had are more noticeable when idling. These mounts are great if you race or track your car, but I don't. Like I said, if I still hate them by the time next year rolls around, I'm swapping them for stock J32 mounts.

Where did you read that they break in?

I honestly can't remember where I read that first, but here's what I came up with after a little searching:

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=683990 --> This is a LOT to weed through but the general consensus seems to be that the vibration is reduced over time but of course still stays pretty noticeable

Also
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=524500 --> Although the Innovative mounts being discussed are for 4cyls, I figured their results were still somewhat relevant since the mounts are constructed from the same materials.
 

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Re: 6 gears > 4 [6spd + 3.2 swap]

I don't know if CL-S seats are a direct swap for sure, but yeah...I want heated seats. I'll have to think about that one.

I read up on this a LONG time ago, and from what I remember... the seats swap over just fine, but the wiring harness isn't plug and play. There was some guy who managed to get the seat warmers working after a lot of re-wiring... so if you ever decided to tackle this, there IS a thread out there somewhere, but I'm too lazy to dig it up right now :thumbup:
 
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