Car tuning: is it worth it?

x5carl3tMurd3rx

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can't really agree with anything you said. I enjoy working on my car and when something goes wrong I like figuring out what it is and fixing it. If your a car guy and your not enjoying your car then maybe its time to move on to a new platform.
 

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first and foremost modding a car is not an investment, since anything you add onto your car will cost more money than you could sell it for, even with parting out.

on top of that most vehicles are designed to fit their certain platform and that is one of the most important things to keep in mind when modding. what your platform is capable of and what the best way to mod your car to get the most bang for your buck is.

I'm not trying to say that modding cars isn't worth it, but if you do mods that can be easily undone so the car can be returned to stock, you're more likely to get the fullest amount of fulfillment from your car with the least destruction to your wallet. if you choose to heavily mod your car it is imperative that you understand that you will loose a massive chunk of your "investment" if you try to resell. In that case, the best thing to do, imo, is to pick a platform and build the car over time, doing things you love to it so that it is your one true project and something that you don't want to sell. Make it as indispensable as everything else in your life so that, unless something extreme happens you will never need to sell it.

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A lot of those complaints can be avoided by doing the proper research. Certain parts are crap, certain shops are crap. You just have to sift through all the crap and you will eventually find parts that dont break as readily and shops that dont suck.

And for the most part OEM parts are the best for longevity, we try to use them as much as possible at the shop. Its worth the couple extra bucks you spend on them.
 

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Feels bad man. I do this for a hobby and hobbies are supposed to be fun. I never planned to race my car seriously. I buy stuff for the hell of it cuz I think it's neat.
 

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Just learn how to do all the labor yourself for every single thing in your car and you'll be doing everything at a fraction of the actual cost haha, THEN it will feel like it is worth it.
IMO.. I've liked the outcome of every mod I've done so far. I've had problems yeah.. (blown engines, etc.) but the parts still give me a good run and make me feel better about it.
 
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Is it worth it? Hell yes!! Ask anyone with a 'vette killer. To me, half the fun is doing the install. Customizing your car is important as well. If you saw Porsche GT2's 4 times a day, every day, you would not appreciate them nearly as much. So what makes my car different from EVERY other silver '02 LX? You guessed it, mods. This isn't a hobby for me. This is something I've been doing since I was 14. I've dumped tons of money, time, and sweat into this. I have collected several thousand dollars worth of tools. I have stayed up till 4 a.m. reading how-to's and build guides. I suck at Rock Band, I don't have a PS3, and I have never played WOW. But, my right foot is heavy, I'm addicted to HP and RPM's, I am on the downward spiral known as boost, and I am loving every minute of it!
 

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i think a lot of it is that hobbies come and go...right now i'm not very "into" photography but i'm spending all my monies on car audio.

but before last summer, i probably didn't visit diyma in like a year. i have like 800 posts on hidplanet and now i'm done with headlight stuff and out of that hobby completely.
 

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Expensive does not = Quality, and cheap does not = crap. There are plenty of ways to save money. The most important is research. Research will tell you that fancy spark plugs, wires, and caps will give no gain on a stock or lightly modified motor over oem parts. I can't tell you how many people have wasted over $200 on this "mod". You can also read about problems people have with products. Many blogs and mags do side by side comparisons of different products, usually one is more expensive than the other, and sometimes the cheaper one is better or the same. The second most important, which gets better with RESEARCH, is learning to wrench. Anything you are thinking about doing to your ride has been done and there is probably a write-up about it. Part of learning to wrench is double and triple checking your work. We all f-up, but if you catch it, it doesn't count. I did a ZC build in a CRX that I ran up to 9k rpm all day long and even drove from Cali to Texas with one 4 hour break. No problems. Total engine build was under $600. The point is that labor is one of your highest costs to modding. Learning to wrench can cut costs in half. And that's about all I have to say about that.
 

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Guys cost or research is not the culprit. I did everything myself that I could, basically all but take the engine out kinda deal, I don't have a hoist nor a dyno to tune it etc. The only real correlation here is aftermarket has a higher rate of failure by far. I found this out the hard way trying to boost and ended up getting an H22 swap instead, more OEMish. All I was hoping for was to get a bit of durability and the cheap performance car tunning generally proclaims. Some of you say you get what you pay for. Well I paid about 10k for the H22 swap so far and the value is way to low. I didn't get what I paid for, I got less than I paid for.

Research is money too btw. Think the time lost researching you could work and get paid an hourly wage. Either that or pay someone to do it who invested his time in research. When you do work by yourself it's not free, and most of the time to do it right you need tools and it's maybe even more expensive. I have to teach as part of my graduate program contract, I think I get higher payoffs by researching in economics. I don't mind paying someone to do their work if it's just, but it really isn't, I find myself always working on my car tightening screws that others forgot to put in, it's too sloppy and parts are ****ty, like Drift said you need to spend some quality time and money to figure out the 1 in 20 that works well.

In the last two years I've gone though half a dozen shops that I've dealt with on more than one occasion until I got fed up and moved on to the next. These shops were chosen not based on cost but based on reputation, research or what have you. I've had my car worked on in shops that have been on TV, shops that are true legends on the forums, several Honda Services while I was stock, shops that cost way too much, Honda specialty shops, shops that specialize in only the thing I needed them to do etc. I don't want to drag names in dirt, I think this is an industry wide phenomena.

I think we put up with most of it and some of you may not even realize the degree of failure because we have a higher tolerance for mishaps. An Accord however is hardly a toy car and usually a daily driver. Reliability and drive-ability should be at the top of the list. I'm all for having fun, but we do share the road and some of us do need it to start-up in the morning.

Well I'm not here to say I'm quitting at least not yet. I've been on the forums before I bought my car, researched it for a year before buying, I've been here since before this site. I will most likely keep this car until something irreversible happens to it. I built one piece fiberglass doors to house 10 inch midbases, that took 2 months out of my life and some lung capacity, I built a carputer that integrates the Hondata display as a real time monitoring device, a track ready suspension etc. I know how much time I put in this car and it's not a good deal to let it go, because time is money.
 

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