hotaccord243
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Re: Going for a re-tune.... (Round #2)
Going for a re-tune.... (Round #2) Updated 10/28/13
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hotaccord243
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Re: Going for a re-tune.... (Round #2) Updated 1/24/13
A little progress tonight, somewhat....
Old intercooler on:
Size by size comparison (350hp vs 600hp precision intercoolers) HUGE difference as you can tell:
And after removing the main chasis support behind the bumper for clearance in lieu of slicing it up to allow for it to fit:
Honestly, can't decide if I should keep the bumper support and foam on or not. I'm sure I can keep it on, hack it to pieces and make room for fitment. BUT it's a hell of a lot easier without it in the way.
Obviously, due to the existing intercooler piping, the IC sits slightly more to the passenger side. Can't decide what I want to do about that either. Probably cut off a portion of the drivers side IC piping to allow it to center, as the passenger side IC piping has a sh** ton of wiggle room.
Once I get it where I want to (if I decide to keep the bumper support off the car) I will build some sort of bracket to support it to the upper radiator structure of the car for further support.
Making slow progress, but progress is progess when it's winter....
A little progress tonight, somewhat....
Old intercooler on:
Size by size comparison (350hp vs 600hp precision intercoolers) HUGE difference as you can tell:
And after removing the main chasis support behind the bumper for clearance in lieu of slicing it up to allow for it to fit:
Honestly, can't decide if I should keep the bumper support and foam on or not. I'm sure I can keep it on, hack it to pieces and make room for fitment. BUT it's a hell of a lot easier without it in the way.
Obviously, due to the existing intercooler piping, the IC sits slightly more to the passenger side. Can't decide what I want to do about that either. Probably cut off a portion of the drivers side IC piping to allow it to center, as the passenger side IC piping has a sh** ton of wiggle room.
Once I get it where I want to (if I decide to keep the bumper support off the car) I will build some sort of bracket to support it to the upper radiator structure of the car for further support.
Making slow progress, but progress is progess when it's winter....
1NonlyAccord
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Re: Going for a re-tune.... (Round #2) Updated 1/24/13
Strongly suggest you make some kind of bumper beam. Being in collision work-that is highly needed to avoid major damage. Even the slightest bumper tap will cause damage to most components behind it.
Strongly suggest you make some kind of bumper beam. Being in collision work-that is highly needed to avoid major damage. Even the slightest bumper tap will cause damage to most components behind it.
Russianred
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Re: Going for a re-tune.... (Round #2) Updated 1/24/13
Hack up the support to allow fit, even though it's a pain in the ass.
Hack up the support to allow fit, even though it's a pain in the ass.
hotaccord243
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Re: Going for a re-tune.... (Round #2) Updated 1/24/13
That's what i'm thinking of doing even though there won't be much left... something is better than nothing right?
That's what i'm thinking of doing even though there won't be much left... something is better than nothing right?
Russianred
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Re: Going for a re-tune.... (Round #2) Updated 1/24/13
^ Exactly. Every little bit counts.. Remember the support is all metal, even if it is weaker, still metal, better than just a plastic bumper cover with fragile piping underneath.
^ Exactly. Every little bit counts.. Remember the support is all metal, even if it is weaker, still metal, better than just a plastic bumper cover with fragile piping underneath.
hotaccord243
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Re: Going for a re-tune.... (Round #2) Updated 1/24/13
SO... what I thought I could avoid, is of course, both unavoidable and inevitable (given the history of everything).....
As you can tell, from above, not only does it sit closer to the passenger side, but also cock-eyed. The passenger side sticks out further and the driver side is closer to the condensor/radiator.....
From screwing around with it tonight, and even cutting the bumper down.... It looks like I am going to have to modify the intercooler piping to get it to sit not only straight, but also "centered.....
Until I get the intercooler piping perfect, to get it straight, I don't want to start cutting down the support just yet. Gotta get that thing sitting higher, straight, and centered. THEN I will start working more with the bumper, frame support, etc.
From what it looks like, the passenger (left) IC pipe needs to be cut down (Where it takes the first 45* from the IC, and away) about 1/4-1/2" to allow it to sit closer to the car. The driver side needs to be cut down about 1-2" (away from the IC) to allow it to sit centered.
The only other way that I see happening is that I severely cut down the driver side and that should fix almost all of my issues.
Once I get this figured out i'll have to build/fab some supports to hold in place (in case I blow a IC pipe of the IC) so I don't run over it. I should expect to run 20+psi which could easily blow a pipe off (better safe than sorry) and to hold it exactly where I want it for bumper placement/fitment.
Thoughts?
SO... what I thought I could avoid, is of course, both unavoidable and inevitable (given the history of everything).....
As you can tell, from above, not only does it sit closer to the passenger side, but also cock-eyed. The passenger side sticks out further and the driver side is closer to the condensor/radiator.....
From screwing around with it tonight, and even cutting the bumper down.... It looks like I am going to have to modify the intercooler piping to get it to sit not only straight, but also "centered.....
Until I get the intercooler piping perfect, to get it straight, I don't want to start cutting down the support just yet. Gotta get that thing sitting higher, straight, and centered. THEN I will start working more with the bumper, frame support, etc.
From what it looks like, the passenger (left) IC pipe needs to be cut down (Where it takes the first 45* from the IC, and away) about 1/4-1/2" to allow it to sit closer to the car. The driver side needs to be cut down about 1-2" (away from the IC) to allow it to sit centered.
The only other way that I see happening is that I severely cut down the driver side and that should fix almost all of my issues.
Once I get this figured out i'll have to build/fab some supports to hold in place (in case I blow a IC pipe of the IC) so I don't run over it. I should expect to run 20+psi which could easily blow a pipe off (better safe than sorry) and to hold it exactly where I want it for bumper placement/fitment.
Thoughts?
AFAccord
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Re: Going for a re-tune.... (Round #2) Updated 1/24/13
Why not just bead all your pipe connections? I tested my charge system to a static ~80psi with no leaks, and ran the turbo up to 21psi. Using reinforced couplers and t-bolt clamps (which you're likely already doing) you shouldn't have any problems.
Why not just bead all your pipe connections? I tested my charge system to a static ~80psi with no leaks, and ran the turbo up to 21psi. Using reinforced couplers and t-bolt clamps (which you're likely already doing) you shouldn't have any problems.
hotaccord243
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Re: Going for a re-tune.... (Round #2) Updated 1/24/13
They are currently beaded now, I just was trying to not re-bead them and/or cut and re-weld the piping (which it looks like I will be doing to get it to sit right).....
I just didn't want to go through the hassle of re-working it basically....
They are currently beaded now, I just was trying to not re-bead them and/or cut and re-weld the piping (which it looks like I will be doing to get it to sit right).....
I just didn't want to go through the hassle of re-working it basically....
