JDMaccord2K
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just curious on the results of anyone on here that has done the OBD2 to OBD1 conversion with a chipped and tuned P28 ecu...
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OBD conversion - Chipped/Tuned P28
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AFAccord
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Are we talking about an F23??
nyknick1015
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I dunno, i hear to try 2 tune the 6th gen f23 is kinda hard if u don't have the right materials. My boy tried to tune a p28 and it ran like shyt to the point where he had 2 sell his car
AFAccord
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You MUST not have read his post...
Ok, let's take this step by step before this thread gets retarded.
Please share with us which program your tuner was using to tune. Was he using a wideband O2? If not, he should have been. Your plugs were most definitely fouled out from running too rich.
7400rpm is far too high to spin a stock F23 bottom end, and I bet you'd even get some valve lash spinning that high. Keep it under 6500rpm until you get that fixed.
4400rpm for VTEC engagement is way too high as well. Have your tuner take it down between 2300 and 2500rpm. You're losing gobs of low-end torque by engaging it that high.
Unless you've got some serious modifications, you won't notice an increase in performance, and you car will never run 'better' than it did stock with the stock ECU, so don't get your hopes up about that. I'm really surprised it runs at all after your tuner did what he's done. He might be the greatest in the world, but if he doesn't understand the intimate workings of the F23, you're just throwing your money away.
JDMaccord2K
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Kid2000EX
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Is your tuner serious??????
nyknick1015
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Well NO thats not wat i mean... like GUDE.com offers like entire head packages for the f23 and he tried 2 tune with a chipped p28 ecu and it ran like shyt after... I dunno wat the person did so i cant recall
But i do agree with you 100% like revving that high is too much for a f23, the redline is at 6500 so going beyond that like all the time, ur bound 2 over heat or blow something... definately lower when vtec engages because on daily driving, i never reach that high so u wont see any performance unless ur really pushing ur car hard every time
JDMaccord2K
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vtec at 2300-2500rpms = 
to my gas milage
to my gas milage
AFAccord
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vtec at 2300-2500rpms =
You pulled that from NASOHC's thread, and it's complete bull****! Why the hell do you people come up with these excuses to justify a myth that defies millions of hours of research and development by engineers, astute in internal combustion theory??
You do realize that in the between the years 1998 and 2002, thousands upon thousands of Honda Accords rolled off the quality control line, and onto a truck bound for a dealership. And of those, every single last one was capable of achieving nearly 32mpg as soon as their first owners drove them off the lot, all because some dedicated and brilliant engineer DESIGNED it to be that way??
Now WHY would you argue, that letting one individual tinker on one of those cars for one day, could possibly change and improve upon the work of a thousand hours by a thousand of minds?
Everyday people jump off a cliff because 'their boy' told them so. And so this thread only furthers the stereotype that is the ignorant Honda owner.
Now I will wash the sand out of my Vajayjay, and say that my intentions are not to point anyone out and belittle them or insult them in any way. But try to understand how someone well versed in any profession must feel by the perpetuity of ill-guided individuals who lead others astray from the facts that are the fruit of their difficult labor. I rest my case.
You pulled that from NASOHC's thread, and it's complete bull****! Why the hell do you people come up with these excuses to justify a myth that defies millions of hours of research and development by engineers, astute in internal combustion theory??
You do realize that in the between the years 1998 and 2002, thousands upon thousands of Honda Accords rolled off the quality control line, and onto a truck bound for a dealership. And of those, every single last one was capable of achieving nearly 32mpg as soon as their first owners drove them off the lot, all because some dedicated and brilliant engineer DESIGNED it to be that way??
Now WHY would you argue, that letting one individual tinker on one of those cars for one day, could possibly change and improve upon the work of a thousand hours by a thousand of minds?
Everyday people jump off a cliff because 'their boy' told them so. And so this thread only furthers the stereotype that is the ignorant Honda owner.
Now I will wash the sand out of my Vajayjay, and say that my intentions are not to point anyone out and belittle them or insult them in any way. But try to understand how someone well versed in any profession must feel by the perpetuity of ill-guided individuals who lead others astray from the facts that are the fruit of their difficult labor. I rest my case.
**** !!! CORRECTION: Why even question the advice & skill of a know tuner, builder & racer with records to prove??? FYI: Bisi spent over 5 hours tuning my car on the dyno (+10 runs) and another hour driving it around while making minor adjustments and I paid serious $$$ for the session... trust me, time & money was not a factor. We did speak about setting the VTEC lower BUT I opted not to for the SIMPLE reason that YES, I DO want to keep a decent gas mileage and DONT need VTEC to be engaging everytime I shift my car driving it back & forth, "home & work" 6 days a week in low RPMs. Honda set it over 4000 from factory for a reason; yes? It's a daily driver! It can be very annoying every time I leave a light and have to shift; the damn VTEC keep jerking the engine just before I have to shift again, no thanks! I ran my car last night on some back streets, At launch (3,000 RPMS) the engine has enough torque to launch without burning out ridiculously and that's less than a sec. before I get into the VTEC set (3900RPM) area on 1st., shifting @ 6400RPM; after that, 2nd., 3rd. & 4th. never sees anything below 4,600RPMs and it works that way, pull up next to me - you'll see.
Please, I found your comments offensive & personal - Don't be judgemental, every car & driver has a different limitation & goal. My car is not stock and the way it was tuned is what works best for me & my car. If you like yours at 1, 2 hundred RPMS and you like it so be it, I never said it was dumb. BONUS VTEC: Figures why my NA build won't have VTEC? But I won't get into that.
