Question about building a 400hp+ F23

[Erik123456789]

My next tune i plan on taking it away from 400whp but will it last? is it even going to make off the dyno without any issues? who knows?

Nice.. I'm looking forward to it.

 

[iHazSnail]

Quick question OP, if you have all the knowledge you need, dare i ask what is this thread about?

 

[almightyfargoth]

damn it Shahid, I wanted to say it..

 

[Erik123456789]

damn it Shahid, I wanted to say it..

lmao me too..

 

[rexload]

If you're referring to the fact that a car like an Evo just happens to have a 4-cylinder engine and someone could spend less money getting that hp by putting on a bigger turbo and some other tweaking than someone outright buying a Corvette and strapping on a supercharger and then compare either of those situations to someone taking a car like a Honda Accord and building a 600+ hp engine under the hood is nonsense.

You're insane sir, the difference is gigantic. Especially in time and money.

Those kinds of cars are brought to a car show, they won't pull up next to you in traffic.

Like the next time you see an Evo on the street, guess what? It's going to have about 300hp. It's not going to have 1000 and ready to make treads marks a mile long. Some college kid liked the wing on the back and he'll be paying it off for years. There's reality for you.

Just remember, you did say "streetable" so don't go back and say "oh I meant like a dragged 4 cylinder."

*edit* ok so you had already replied with that comment about specific 4 cylinder engines, takes half the fun out of the absurdity of this..

Actually Honda engines are much more efficient than Mitsubishi engines stock vs stock.

an engine is an engine is an engine. you can build any engine to make power as long as you have access to quality parts.

the only difference with an accord is that it will still run 13-12 sec 1/4 mile even with 400-500hp because it can't be launched like an EVO.

So this is definitely not going to be a drag car, just a fun street car.

1. Either way your GOING to have to get bigger injectors, 1000cc is just to be safe because you WILL be running higher boost if you wanna break the 400whp mark with the f23.

2. Your never gonna get close to 400whp with a stock block unless you plan on getting a decent amount of boost.

3. there are aem systems specifically made for obd2 engines so you can tune them and avoid converting them to obd1

4. 400hp has been done a stock f22 block, for how long? you specifically mentioned you want a DAILY DRIVER, 400whp on a stock block will NOT last you long.

5. Pistons alone does NOT mean your block is built, those 600-800whp hondas you speak of are FULLY built.

and lastly, your welcome.

I already have everything I need to tune an OBD1 Honda, it's just easier.

Never said I would run 400hp on a stock block, just saying it has been done on a similar engine and I'm pretty sure it didn't blow, just got replaced by a diff engine.

i don't think 400 is that big of a goal for the f23....it just seems that people that mod accords have allot smaller budgets than people in the honda-tech/civic realm....

it will take allot of money and a bit of sacrifice for daily...but it is definitely doable...

people just have to have big enough budgets to build a turbo kit that will flow the power...and just keep replacing/reinforcing things that break along the way....

that's the good thing about Hondas - **** rarely breaks on them compared to other cars. The stock axles handle WELL over 400hp, the stock transmissions can handle nearly double my power goal, the stock sleeves in F/H engines are definitely good for 400hp

 

[rexload]

Quick question OP, if you have all the knowledge you need, dare i ask what is this thread about?

My questions are in my first post. I wasn't looking to hear people tell me how you cant build a 400hp Honda engine..... when I have basically a 400crank hp Honda sitting outside that cost me 3Gs to build and has been the most reliable car Ive ever owned.

I was honestly looking for some advice on whether the F23 head will support my power goal because it will be easiest to pass the OBD2 inspection if I keep the stock head/cam.

And my other question was about the immobilizer and whether I need to disable it somehow in order to put an OBD1 ECU in the car.

That's all I was looking for.

 

[rexload]

B_Ron007 or whatever, if you're talking of the same guy from the honduh.com days. I think he made ~330whp at 17psi, but as you mentioned ended up rebuilding. I think it lasted 6-7 months. I'm with erik though, the argument isn't about whether it's possible, it's about whether it's possible while trying to keep things stock and with low to moderate boost. Big difference imo, unless the OP is changing his argument which it sounds like

That is exactly why I started the thread, wanted to know if the stock head is capable. If not, no biggie, I can throw and H22 or an F22 in there. Just trying to keep everything as simple as possible for myself.

 

[almightyfargoth]

I have basically a 400crank hp Honda sitting outside that cost me 3Gs to build and has been the most reliable car Ive ever owned

ok? introduce the rest of us to this car.

make a thread, I'd like to see.

 

[rexload]

ok? introduce the rest of us to this car.

make a thread, I'd like to see.

nothing that great just an EJ Civic. Stock F22 with Delta cam, a/w intercooler, ebay wastegate, front bumper exit exhaust (it's very quiet believe it or not), 560cc injectors, DSM 20G turbo, polished IM, tuned by me, runs fine. nothing special, I'd like a comfortable car that I can actually take my gf in, that's why I'm looking at CGs

 

[Totalimmortal]

We didn't want a description, we wanted a thread with pics.