Turbo Build 10.8:1 compression! undergo. Updated 7/11/13 Pics

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Looks good so far..You will have issues with that oil filter sandwich tho FYI.You will never get it to seal and pretty sure thats not proper oil pressure sender to a turbo.
Spend 20$ and get the Oil pressure T plate kit.
 

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Looks good so far..You will have issues with that oil filter sandwich tho FYI.You will never get it to seal and pretty sure thats not proper oil pressure sender to a turbo.
Spend 20$ and get the Oil pressure T plate kit.

I actually have the T plate, i want to try this and see how it does. If it fails oh well. Im pretty sure tho there is pressure all around the oil pan and the block so pressure would be everywhere regardless. Team boost buddy! :)
 
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Sweet,Im ready to build a motor for mine. My 282whp is getting old and slow fast.ha Once I move into the new house and settle down Ill prolly order a new engine and build it.
What oil sandwich plate? I think i had one and it leaked,Cant remember the brand,NRG i think.
 

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This is just a generic ebay brand, im just trying this as i never heard of it until my friend told me about it. I will let you know how it all goes. Right now im in the process of getting my brother running lol. Jdm f23 swaped and boost old motor crapped out.
 

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Guys i chose the k20 9.8:1 pistons which would put me to 10.8:1 i have E85 around but i think i can get away with my power goal on 93 pump gas without a knock. 400+whp high boost, 350 mid, around 250 wastegate but im sure my 8psi wastegate will yield more than that.

The 9.8 K20 pistons have about a 2.5cc dish to them, which in the F23 puts you at 11:1. Factor in a tiny bit larger bore for your P2W, and you're around 11.1 compression. It's not a huge increase from 10.8, but good to be aware of.

Ebay cast mani Purchased

I think you'll find as many have here that a cast manifold can be quite a restriction at levels above 300hp. Devin is using a tubular log manifold, but I think he may even realize the limitations of that design very soon as he tries to break the 400 mark. Unfortunately there's very few options for other manifolds on the F23, and even fewer if you're wanting to retain A/C. Russianred was working on an ebay brand F22B ramhorn manifold, but I don't know if he ever got it mocked up.


550cc injectors Purchased

550cc is only going to be good for 350-375whp on pump gas, and that's at 100% duty cycle. You want to keep injector duty below 85% for optimal efficiency. 750cc should work well for 400-450whp, but you're going to want 1000cc if you're shooting for more.


Aem wideband guage Purchased

I've got one of these, and while it's not a narrowband, don't expect to tune off of it very well. Most reputable tuners won't even touch AEM widebands.


2 wire iacv and adapter plate Purchased

Russianred had issues with boost blowing out the O-ring between the plenum and the adapter. When I bought the adapter from him, I had a groove machined into the adapter to hold the o-ring, similar to the groove that holds it on the IACV itself.


Act clutch kit Not purchased to be on the 16th of May

Which one are you looking at getting?


Dizzy wiring for the h23a head using a usdm prelude distributor that is the only question i have how does that work? is it plug and play butt connector with the f23?

Do you know the year the dizzy is from? I'd compare the connectors to see if they match up, then head over to technet.ff-squad.com to compare pin-outs.
 

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Re: Turbo Build 10.8:1 compression! undergo. Updated Pics

The 9.8 K20 pistons have about a 2.5cc dish to them, which in the F23 puts you at 11:1. Factor in a tiny bit larger bore for your P2W, and you're around 11.1 compression. It's not a huge increase from 10.8, but good to be aware of.



I think you'll find as many have here that a cast manifold can be quite a restriction at levels above 300hp. Devin is using a tubular log manifold, but I think he may even realize the limitations of that design very soon as he tries to break the 400 mark. Unfortunately there's very few options for other manifolds on the F23, and even fewer if you're wanting to retain A/C. Russianred was working on an ebay brand F22B ramhorn manifold, but I don't know if he ever got it mocked up.




550cc is only going to be good for 350-375whp on pump gas, and that's at 100% duty cycle. You want to keep injector duty below 85% for optimal efficiency. 750cc should work well for 400-450whp, but you're going to want 1000cc if you're shooting for more.




I've got one of these, and while it's not a narrowband, don't expect to tune off of it very well. Most reputable tuners won't even touch AEM widebands.




Russianred had issues with boost blowing out the O-ring between the plenum and the adapter. When I bought the adapter from him, I had a groove machined into the adapter to hold the o-ring, similar to the groove that holds it on the IACV itself.




Which one are you looking at getting?




Do you know the year the dizzy is from? I'd compare the connectors to see if they match up, then head over to technet.ff-squad.com to compare pin-outs.

1. I can almost bet the 9.8:1 had -3.5cc which it does, not -2.5
2. Yeah i know the iacv issue.
3. Manifold i'll see i mean no one on here as far as i have seen even built their internals running the log mani no big deal tho dad can weld me up one.
4. My injector sizes i know has to be upgraded to achieve 400hp+
5. The clutch is the act 6 puck rated to hold 356ft, Its a daily car and wont ever see more than 400+whp/tq unless at the track.
6. Also thanks much for the help with the h head but i am going to stick with the f23 head. I appreciate every and any information you tell me. Really admire your build, probably more than anyone else does.
 
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Update, acl rod bearings are in as well as gasket set and timing belt kit i do however need my block gaskets. Went to the machine shop 30 minutes ago very knowledgeable and knew the engine i was working on and agrees on the .004 p2w will hone, bore, clean, gap rings, deck and put bottom end together is $318 3 weeks turn around time which should be when my clutch gets here anyway. Sound reasonable will be going to another just to match prices.
 
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So, went to another shop and said $200 even for decking, cleaning, honing, boring. I have had friends do work there before so i know its legit another 150 to put the block together but that turn around time would take very long as he has other cars to work on. He said he can do the machining etc and turn it around in say 1 week or so. Liked the first shop i went to but this price is just wow as in good. Will call another shop tomorrow.
 

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Good progress. I'd swap out the oil sandwich adapter for a proper T-fitting (bolts in and 3 sensor holes left to use) - one hole for oil pressure sensor, another plugged up on the end by stock oil sensor which is useless at this point, and third port for your crucial oil feed line. Bolt this fitting into the hole where your stock original oil pressure sensor goes, this will save you lots of headache.

I wasn't downing eBay turbos, and I never had a bad experience with them because I've never used an off-brand one. I do however know that the chances of them busting are higher than a name-brand one, and that's not one of the things you want to cheap out on when you go all out on everything else - not saying anything more or less than that above.
 
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