finch13
Well-Known Member
Fel-Pro makes some good ****, but sometimes even they **** up. A good pan gasket will have a plastic cage with a rubber/or silicone gasket secured inside. That way they can't push out and douche oil everywhere.
A new plug every 5 oil changes? You're lubing and cleaning the threads with oil every time you screw the drain plug in... it's a bit overkill. I've never changed the plug or the crush washer with no leaks whatsoever.
The 4cyl's have it lucky, steel pan, steel bolt. No dissimilar metals to seize to each other. The V6's with aluminum pans are not so lucky. Combining overtightening with dissimilar metals makes it SUPER easy to pull the threads out with the plug.
Here's the deal with tapping oil pans on the car... you will have no idea if you got all the shavings out. A tiny bit of shavings in the crankcase can go a LONG way towards prematurely wiping out bearings.
Since it sounds like you're going replace the pan, here's some tips:
- Use brake clean and wash down the seam between the pan and block, try to go 1" up from the bottom of the block.
- Use brake clean to wipe off any oil and sludge that my be on the sealing. If Honda uses Hondabond for their gaskets instead of just rubber, pick up a gasket scraper. I said gasket scraper, not a putty knife.
- Make sure you get a "flat pack" gasket. If you buy an aftermarket pan that has the gasket rolled up in a ball, toss it out. Silicone impregnate paper gasket blow, they're know to seep through and known to blow gasket out and leak.
- I'm pretty sure the pans just use RTV silicone for a gasket, if so, pick up a tube of Hondabond or Permatex's "The Right Stuff" gasket maker ($20). It's expensive, but well worth the cost. Lay a solid 3/16" bead around the entire pan, go on the inside of the bolt holes.
fel-pro offers a 4cyl pan gasket, i believe. still don't know if i'm going that route or getting some hondabond.
i'll check my oil and see if there's any missing. its too cold to f with it now...
Fel-Pro makes some good ****, but sometimes even they **** up. A good pan gasket will have a plastic cage with a rubber/or silicone gasket secured inside. That way they can't push out and douche oil everywhere.
isnt the pan just put on with only hondabond to begin with? like, no actual gasket at all? on the f23's at least.
i might end up going this route.I always put a thin layer of Hondabond, or Fujibond (subaru's silcone gasket stuff) on both sides of the oil pan gasket before putting it on. Just as a little added insurance.
doesn't really matter what it comes with...but my buddy confirmed it's only a hondabond gasket from the factory. that said...you can go:I have no idea, I assumed that they had a gasket because there is an OEM one available for purchase....can anyone confirm this?
gasket only (i didn't look too hard for an OEM but didn't find one. majestic's site sucks)
there isnt one listed on majestics site, cuz, well, its not there to begin with haha.
youd be fine with just the hondabond, since thats what only there now.